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Title: Surreal UK Deportations: The Government Cuts Off Its Nose To Spite Its Face!!
Published: 2018-06-29
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vff4IgqYkTM
Title: Surreal UK Deportations: The Government Cuts Off Its Nose To Spite Its Face!!
Published: 2018-06-29
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vff4IgqYkTM
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this is where you become responsible as Brits to stand up and say hold on a second this makes me a shame of being even a British person okay this is something that we need to step in and therefore contact the MPS okay and and say do something about this well hello everyone today we have Saleem Dutta boy with us with a very very interesting disturbing case2/92
from the UK welcome Saleem Thank You much thank you for the opportunity to do absolutely our pleasure and it's going to be very important to share this story with our viewers because we are delving into another area of kafka ask situations with the national security era and the laws that don't make sense and of course with all the new immigration policies and implementations we are seeing3/92
especially in the Western Europe region we are seeing in the u.s. in fact it has been the headlines with all the latest immigration incidents here in the United States I spend a while and and read some of these articles written on your case Saleem and before we started recording I was asking if you were familiar with the work of Franz Kafka and Kafka has written series4/92
of books on how I would say surreal bureaucracies can become and this is especially the case when countries nations turn into more what we call referred to as police state practices and your case fits within this and Kafka's books include judge you know the trial and the reason I'm saying if it's Kafka asked we gotta get to that part but before we do that why don't5/92
we start with you telling us about your case I believe you moved to England in 2010 correct yes I did yes I came here in 2010 as a student and I finished off my education as a chartered accountant in the United Kingdom and then I started working I applied under the Tier one gender visa category which has certain points points for education qualification earnings and the6/92
number of years that you've lived in the United Kingdom and then you apply for that extent for the visa in December 2011 the extension was due in December 2013 and then I applied for the indefinitely from 8 so when this one should live lived five years on a continuous period you can then apply for the indefinite leave to remain which I did in April 2017 this7/92
is a type of a business visa is that correct well this is this is a highly skilled migrant visa so basically as long as you meet certain income thresholds and appoint certain points you anybody can qualify for it did you also bring in investments for the business you established in the United Kingdom in England I I did not bring any investment for the visa point of8/92
view but my entire purpose of staying in this country was to invest into businesses I I belong from a wealthy family in Pakistan and my entire goal of living in United in Davos was to establish businesses hosted by businesses so that I can expand my family's business and from what I understand your business there you started this line of work had showed a pretty good growth9/92
in fact from what I understand here you have 20 or so UK citizens who are working and they are employed with this business I mean I started the business in 2012 the the business what was five thousand pounds was the worth of business in 2012 and in 2017 when we file the file accounts the business worth was 1.5 million so yes we have in six years10/92
time we have seen tremendous growth from having six employees we have 20 direct indirect employees and we now submit six-digit corporation tax figures yes I was going to bring that part up and saying that that's that translates into some hefty taxes especially in England as far as what you have been contributing with your company to the to the public for the public's benefit in terms of11/92
taxes so all these things are going well you have your visa and then something happens so party symbol I would like to add here that the taxes that I'm telling you or just a corporation tax figures my own personal tax figures are completely separate which I submit on a monthly basis which are obviously deducted on the salary and which is also deducted on my dividends now12/92
that is completely separate so we being paying into the system from day one so salim here you are highly educated you speak perfect english you start this business and you start contributing hefty tax levels both in personal tax and in your business tax categories to to the government there in england and this business is thriving we have 20 plus english citizens working for this company and13/92
have you ever had any criminal records I don't even have I don't have any criminal records not even a traffic violation okay so I would say it's fair to say you in your in this category of highly desirable immigrants coming to countries whether it's in the United States or in the UK you know we have seen cases of you have refugees coming as immigrants you have14/92
people it's unfortunate but we have seen it there are people going into Germany only to tap into their welfare system you know and they sit and they collect unemployment as as soon as they get their residency because hey this is good these are the benefits we don't get in our countries kind of a mentality but here you are you cope you go to the United Kingdom15/92
you start this business you have no criminal record you speak perfect English you are highly educated so tell us what happened before I answer that question or that the other part of the question I would like to inform you that the benefits that the the system that gives to it to its residents we do not as non-european nationals are not entitled to any benefit so any16/92
mentions of a visa that no recourse to public firms so I do not I have not I have not never entitled No and I'm not entitled nor I have any intentions of claiming any benefits so we are solely contributing to the economy without taking any penny out of the system does this apply to health care as well when you go to hospitals for any purposes can17/92
you take advantage of the UK health care system please you see we pay national insurance on a monthly basis which is which pays towards the health care so it is part of my salary anyways which gets deducted on the tax so indirectly I am paying for it and other than that when you apply for an extension visa there's a National Health Service surcharge that every non18/92
EU migrant or I think even one you migrant has to pay so we pay towards the energies it's not predominantly free so you see you see I am for the pain towards it as an energy so charge so selim everything here sounds absolutely fantastic as I said you are a perfect immigrants actually contributing greatly to the system to the country you you have started this business19/92
in so now all of a sudden the same government the UK government they have decided that they don't want to renew your visa and they want you out now how did this come about and what happens here it's it's it's it's a national scandal and as per the House of Lords members and he was actually regarding my case I applied for the indefinite leave to remain20/92
in April 2017 it takes usually six months for the Home Office to process an application and in it took more than six months for them to process my application and in November 2017 they rejected my application saying that the income record that I've submitted the HMRC which is the tax authority is different to the income submitted to the Home Office and therefore I am a person21/92
of bad character and conduct and article three two to five which is general grounds of refusal was applied on me and the visa was rejected without any right of appeal I mean what does that even mean what they are citing what did they mean the income being different and this basically being a reason under the character etc flaw I mean how do you explain to us22/92
what does that even mean this well the home office the home office are saying that in 2013 that I submitted my extension for the visa I submitted an income to the home office and that same income for that year does not match with the HMRC record therefore I'm a man who's who's got a negative character I've basically lied to the to be to the department and23/92
therefore I'm a threat to national security and I should be I should be removed from the company without any right we'll be okay let me see if I get this right due to some explainable discrepancy they have translated into a national security issue and a character flaw I'm gonna take a pause here from your side and I'm just gonna I'm gonna read this actually I'm so24/92
glad to see that Guardian UK covered this case in fact I saw two articles pertaining to this case one was mainly and we're going to provide the links to our up to our viewers on this but it says the controversial paragraph says these grounds include the undesirability of permitting the person concerned to remain in the United Kingdom in the light of his conduct character or associations25/92
or the fact that he represents a track to national security so I went and check this law they have left it at this and it is loosely worded and there is no specifics no details no explanation that what constitutes national security threat what constitutes character flaw I mean I know it's gonna sound ridiculous but with all the CCTV cameras in the UK if I by mistake26/92
I'm picking at my nose in a metro you know they can they use it as a well that's a flaw you're seen I mean it's so defective it is so incomplete and and I believe on purpose it has been warded in such a way and we see that all the time here in the United States the Department of Homeland Security TSA they awarded in such a27/92
way that it can mean anything they wanted to me so you being on the right side of this case once this started happening this case I'm by the way your family your wife and your child this time at this period they were in the country right they were with you so you decided to challenge that by saying okay hold on a second I can show you28/92
all my books I can show you all my tax records I can explain this in the court and you went into court and you started presenting your case before a judge there we call them judge here in the United States so tell us what happened let me first tell you about article 32 - phone sure please this is the reason that they've rejected the application is29/92
on article 3 2 to 5 which is used primarily for criminals where there are sham marriages where there are travel bans where there are serious misconduct in someone's behavior that is where it can be linked to article 3 2 to 5 and the visa can be rejected and let me also firm you that article 3 2 to 5 is not a mandatory infuser it's a general30/92
ground of refusal so as you say it's very vaguely worded and it is a discretionary use to the caseworker where they can reject the application wherever they think it's appropriate to reject whether it's appropriate or not that's that's that's that's another thing that's another thing coming one more thing I would like to add here is this is all part of the hostile environment which the Home31/92
Office has created since 2014 where we've recently found out and we you must be also aware of the fact that Amber are the sector II of state the previous sectarian state had to resign as she lied in in the Home Affairs Select Committee about not knowing about deputation targets so obviously they had to meet those targets to please their manifestos that they had pledged in in32/92
the last elections so whether you legal or illegal the home office will do whatever they can to get rid of you because for them all migrants are just numbers that they need to get rid of and why I have to interrupt here now considering the benefits you are drinking and many other immigrants who are doing the way you are these are educated people I've seen and33/92
I have read in the articles these are doctors these are attorneys these are businessmen like yourself why why would they want to get rid of such people why would they want that but they just want to work they just want to reduce my immigration numbers and they also want to reach those reputation targets and eventually they want to fulfill their manifestos that they had pledged in34/92
elections now whether those manifestos were a lie to the public or they were cocked up that's a separate thing coming that's a separate thing that's a separate issue to be discussed but but in this case we are looking at European countries that are also facing some employment issues and problems and you're a guy here you are an immigrant legal immigrant going there and providing jobs to35/92
20 to 20 citizens there in the United Kingdom absolutely and and similar I would like to tell you here that it's totally it's even the European people for the last two years who's facing a lot of difficulties and and they are because since the bridge that has happened there is a lot of uncertainty in the in the in the in the business environment and at this36/92
point in time where you mean highly skilled people like me and and the group the highly skilled group that I am part of which is got doctors engineers IT professionals people who used to personally submit six digit tax fix are all part of the this scandal where article 3 2 to 5 is being imposed on them and and and the irony of this is that they37/92
accuse us of some sort of criminality without any evidence and then they don't even give us a right to appeal so there is no right to appeal against it and that is the shocking bit I think that is a complete human right violation where we're a migrant has been accused of criminality and is not even given a right of a pain but you took your case38/92
you challenged us legally in courts and old in all the court hearings you have had the courts in the United Kingdom's they all sided with your case and they said this is ridiculous right Cybil yes what happened in 2011 when I applied for the ETA of an extension visa the Home Office rejected my application on the basis of dejected deception and I won that in court39/92
in 2013 the home office again rejected my application on the basis of deception iodine one that in gold and now this is the third third time that the home office is again challenging me the only difference here is that they have not given me they have not given me a right of appeal whereas previously they did give me a right of appeal in this case they've40/92
not given me any right okay so there is a complete track record of discrimination in my case but they have always rejected my application on some baseless grounds and they've lost it in encodes and thankfully the UK judiciary is is independent and it's fair and I wanted any you get votes if this is the third I mean definitely in to remain they've rejected again but this41/92
time on the basis of criminality and they have not even bothered even your right of appeal and why the burden should be on you the burden should be on them to prove this in a court I'm going to give a quick example here is the recent experience I went through I was overseas for two months I went to several countries Europe Middle East etcetera uh after42/92
I returned and I came here to the United States and I went through the passport passport control homonyms you are still a citizen and all good and when I was about to board my next plane here in the United States as I went through the security line and this is before you go through all the radiation machine the tsa department of homeland security guy as soon43/92
as he scammed my my boarding pass check out my driver's license my boarding pass he said we need to have you stand here for additional security and questioning and we need to have the head of the TSA in that Airport is a San Francisco Airport to come so to make a long story short they made me wait 30 minutes and I'm about to miss my flight44/92
and I kept asking the guy I'm saying is this random he's like we can't give you that information I said well I have a flight to catch 30 minutes later this guy comes and as he walk is walking me through extra security three times going through the skin and I haven't beat I have everything my entry was perfectly fine I have my American passport I don't45/92
have any criminal record I ask this guy who's the head of the security in San Francisco Airport I said is this random and he actually looked at me and he said I can assure you it's not random I said well what is that supposed to mean why am I being selected he said well recently you have been placed in this special interest category I said how46/92
do you define special interest category what the heck is the special interest category he said you know what you need to ask Department of Homeland Security we are not in a position to let you know what that special interest category is in fact we can't tell you so they don't they don't have to even tell you here in the United States why you are placed on47/92
some special interest category is it like a terrorism we are not at this Liberty to tell you about this so this is what I mean by kafka ask and to go back there the burden should be on them in this case they are preventing even your appeal in your previous appeals you have been successful and at this point they actually send your wife and your daughter48/92
I believe why by person would have been far greater than the professional ones the offices done whatever they can to create havoc in my life's when I applied for the indefinite leave to remain in April 2017 my wife and my born child UK born child had to leave in in October because the visa was expiring and the home office had not made May made up their49/92
mind whether they will reject or approve my application by that time and they were given over the six months period the standard six month period then they take to decide the indefinite leave to the main application that had passed by six months or over that but they still hadn't made up their mind or given me any sort of indication of what the decision will be or50/92
when the decision would be taken so my family had to go back to Pakistan so both my wife and my two year old child she was she wasn't even two year old by then I missed a second birthday in November she was they had to go back and it's been eight months up till now I haven't seen them the the closest the communication I can have51/92
with my child is to Skype or FaceTime and that's how that's how I'm living for the past eight months so what have you been in touch with others with similar cases these doctors teachers IP experts have you made the networking connections with them simple I'm in touch with a lot of people I'm in touch with the entire highly skilled migrant group and there are stories where52/92
they are so hard breaking is so off that people can go through such devastations in their life and the home office will not even take notice of them I mean let me tell you recently five six days ago there was a guy whose father died and his father wasn't feeling well and the hero he wrote to the Home Office saying can you please expedite my case53/92
because my father is is bedridden and he's asked for doctors he's he could do any any any day and the home office did not even bother replying back and his father died and any posted pictures office of his father's death on on social media and there was no reek though apologies coming from the department they don't I mean the Home Office have no human empathy they54/92
have no human sensitivity when they are deciding on on a migrants application I mean all these all these people their families have been torn apart for all these people including mine and and and we really we're suffering for a crime that we all never committed well let me emphasize here we are talking about what is referred to as the liberal Europe right this is the liberal55/92
civilized Europe versus the barbaric uncivilized third world countries okay that's what we are talking about and we know that the United Kingdom is not the only country we are seeing this a bit in the Scandinavian nations to a large degree we are seeing this in Germany and of course similar stuff have started happening here in the United States when you meet with these people based on56/92
your observation selim have you detected any kind of a common theme we know they are educated highly skilled IT doctors nurses etc but have you seen certain percentage of certain nations being higher than others I mean for example you come across many Eastern Europeans versus you know places or countries such as turkey or Afghanistan or or Lebanon etc absolutely majority I mean mainly what I have57/92
seen is they're all non-eu Nationals and mainly from the Asian countries like Pakistan India Bangladesh Sri Lanka and even some African countries where I've noticed where applicants visas have been rejected on article 32 to 5 they've been they've been given no right of appeal and no access to public healthcare and no access to any right of work it's mainly asian and african countries and as far