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Caitlin Johnstone
Title: Russiagate Isn't About Trump, And It Isn't Even Ultimately About Russia
Published: 2018-01-28
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOgQsKsugi4
Title: Russiagate Isn't About Trump, And It Isn't Even Ultimately About Russia
Published: 2018-01-28
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOgQsKsugi4
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[Music] hey welcome to going rogue the podcast for clear eyed rebels and utopia Preppers I'm here as always with the road journalist Caitlin Johnston I'm Caitlin's worse half Tim Foley how you doing Caitlin hey Tim how you gay I'm real good so you you you had a big move recently no not a move I am divisible diversification yes I am you slap media happy and for2/72
very good reason there's a lot of weird things happening both on Twitter and Facebook and even on medium I've had some little things happen they've they've changed their business structure a little bit and that worries me anyway still we're gonna be a medium still gonna be on Twitter still gonna be on Facebook still gonna be on the Caitlin Johnston website but I'm also going to put3/72
my articles on steam it steam it how exciting I'm gonna be a steampunk steampunk journalist yeah so that's the one with the block chains and the Bitcoin I didn't don't ask me what that means I've no idea no I don't I know that I've got some dollars there's a dollar sign and then some numbers after that I'm not in substantial and is that like real money4/72
or is it fake I'm not sure I don't sure if let's do like play money or I really don't know all right you know my friend Suzy Dawson we awesome Susan Orson has been on there for a little while and she reckons it's great and he reckons it that money had something to do with something like it actually might be real money I don't it's just5/72
exciting money's great money is really good and it means so everyone like you you have to make an account you can just read but if you want to comment you have to make a big cat a little bit like medium but that means that you can get little fits as well I think so everybody everybody sign up for steam it that way you can kaitland stuff6/72
and maybe you can make some possibly real money also who knows we'll find out together it's a great big adventure steampunk adventure well that's great yes so so by do a file at forms you're here hopefully getting your views are gonna be cut on each of them just because they're squeezing the hell out of you on the corporate social media sites well hopefully by by diversifying7/72
you'll be able to get your message out there to even more people well I hope so I'm still gonna be on Facebook I kind of consider to the Facebook like the iron.i of the mind virus really that's where they've concentrated everything in the online it's good to be looking in there anyway and seeing what's happening and hearing people complain and stuff but it's also good to8/72
be putting the medicine right into the mind virus as well hmm like I think you know they've really lucked at dad mr. Zuckerberg seems very happy to do whatever it needs to do he needs to do to put himself in good stead with the establishment and you know they've even got their own little page there with the Facebook people get together and talk about what real9/72
journalism using stuff yeah there's starting like that there there they have a whole like they're starting to make their own journalism now I know it's a bit creepy he's like a bird journalists well what I was just occurred to me today actually what's really crazy is that Zuckerberg is creating this Empire I mean he's got this Empire if he used to go and make a presidential10/72
run as some have looted then that would be incredibly toxic well yeah he had his own brainwashing machine yeah no that would be like Bezos running running for president right it's like so many conflicts of interest there you know like how Trump sorta kinda officially withdrew from his corporate interests instead yeah but that would make this look like yeah child's play like he actually has a11/72
machine that he can take and control what people think right so even before he went in for the run we would expect him to stand down yeah I mean and I think this is why we have to start talking here back social media as being public utilities because there's so much power you have so much power when you you you're at the head of one of12/72
these things and if you mix that up with government corporate power created a very toxic system you had a weird experience with Twitter as well yes are you sniff Tom day today and Elizabeth bleep oh my god all right so you guys got to see this there's Elizabeth Lee Beck was on CNN and on a panel and they had her she was one of the you13/72
know they have the little squares on the screen while you're talking and there's this guy this Kurt I can while looking they look like her die everyone on CNN looks like Kurt I can walk there's a Kurt I can walk guy with his journey with the journalism want with the journalism show and then occurred I can walk I think they all look like and and one14/72
of the one of the curtain walls was on there droning on about Russia gate it just sounds like this beige sludge pouring out of the screen into my face and just you know how are they kind of well you in with these hypnotic tones and just authoritative sounding voices and yeah this is definitely happening so this is the thing they talk really confidently and self assuredly15/72
and Elizabeth Lee Beck is is there on the panel and you can see her squirming like yeah reacting exactly to CNN as I react to see it and then she says the thing that I would say if if I were just sitting around in the living room and you had turned on see exactly what any normal person would say if you turn CNN on yes why16/72
are you subjecting me to this great that's and it just totally broke his smell and everyone was like ah yeah because like he was casting a spell he was casting he was hypnotizing every went into the Russia gate [ __ ] that this is true because they say it's so confident sounding monologue and she just jarred everyone out of that I think like what who said17/72
that what happened voice am i right and that's exactly why I was there I was on Twitter I just wanted to go and say that was fantastic we had just been talking on our podcast about running like you know your own disruption campaigns to the rest of the mainstream brainwashing and there was the most perfect example of someone just like slicing through that oatmeal of [18/72
__ ] and and what you know waking everyone up so I went on to Twitter went to say you know some kindly words to her and found out that I had been unfollowed from her and she unfolded from me they just just unclick to you this is one of the DNC fraud and lawsuit lawyers by the way everyone if you're not familiar with her right her19/72
and her husband Jared Baker thing think anyway so yes and now I think I've heard about this for a long time now probably the last three or four months people have been dear making me saying things like I had to follow you three times now because Twitter keeps unfollowing me from you and you know not something he can verify like in your own experience or whatever20/72
I'm like I think speaking faux Bethenny but yeah it actually definitely happened to me right yeah I saw a post from Li camp who said What did he say I think you you retweeted it he said he said that he's getting you and I have facebook it's working it's censoring people yes so he's getting he's but four hundred thirty thousand followers yeah and and he used21/72
to get about six thousand a week you know just on a regular basis now he only gets about five hundred and people are being slyly unfollowed so the same thing is happening on Facebook and Twitter this is one of those things just like like how they we're hiding the DNC fraud lawsuit and we found about it later this is one of those things that they're gonna22/72
leak or that's gonna come out a year or two from now yeah and we're gonna see I knew I wasn't crazy right yeah yeah some someone will actually come out and you know from Twitter and say it was one of those project Veritas videos oh oh you know they might even reframe it that's the worst I hate when they reframe it into it big hero story23/72
like the dance ya know we protected everyone from Russian propaganda by hiding the DNC fraud lossy yes no but you [ __ ] lied about any years 30 weeks deeply leaked yet we know that they knew that they were doing the wrong thing at the time because they lied about it yeah Jack point-blank lied about it Jack Dorsey yeah he was asked about at any point24/72
blank line so there was no thoughts of you know like worried about people's Russian [ __ ] at that stage so they're running their own disruption campaigns that's why it's so important that we run our own right it's their [ __ ] yeah because you can be damn sure they're gonna do it to us yeah they sabotaging all the time constantly yeah I mean you guys25/72
are like like it and all friends you're let you're at least acquaintances you talk to each other here and there and you like each other and they disrupted that they just were up today a human relationship I really hate that about this whole thing I hate supergroups that's why I hate david brock with such a passion oh yeah with his shill army yeah right have people26/72
come in pretending to be real people and hey yeah well we all like hillary clinton because we're just normal yeah yeah that's the normal thing that's the normal thing is just like because you're racist yeah Oh worse they were coming as Bernie people pretending to be really sexist or really racist or whatever I like unit they would also do disruption campaigns there was a little bit27/72
fire level but just constantly running sabotage on human relationships like that should be illegal it's disgusting and it's so disgusting you know humans are like our only way of doing healthy things is being able to collaborate in a normal way where you know people of course people lie a little bit they manipulate a little bit or whatever but when you've got like huge money armies of28/72
people coming in to disrupt normal everyday collaboration that's why it's so I'm not just that they [ __ ] about Russian propaganda isn't it like [ __ ] you yeah Jesus you yeah yeah you're out there you have actual political insiders not just running propaganda like psyops right actually lack Chua li trying to program the way people yes with deceit yes and yes psychological background to29/72
that like yeah and and then doing that at the same time as well saying about Russia it's a part of their style right say oh my god how dare you yeah I'm dare you ever ever [ __ ] about RT covering the Occupy Wall Street [ __ ] you yeah being the disgusting piece of [ __ ] that go around bitching about as so often the30/72
case we've wound back to Russia which takes us to the article that you that you wrote today right yeah which is titled Russia gate is not about Trump and it's ultimately not even about Russia right well I think it was a bad time to actually kind of talk about the real reason why the u.s. is he's running this campaign against Russia all the time China uses31/72
Russia as clinic like it's right arm muscle guy like him it's like it's sword arm yeah yeah they and they kind of like a one-two punch going there China in and of itself doesn't like to get his hands too dirty yet you know right well it interferes with its economic interests right so ah but the u.s. is well aware of this at the high levels and32/72
the u.s. is extremely protective of its notion of being the world's superpower the only world superpower right that's the that's the P knack doctor is the ultimate neoconservative goal law is to just make sure that that America stays the top dog all the time all right so the Democrats you know the [ __ ] hat-wearing Democrats think it's all about impeaching Trump and about the treasonous33/72
actions of the administration in brilliantly with nefarious like influence into in politics they think it's about the destruction of democracy yeah that darn Putin stole all of our democracy we had so much democracy and then putting along he took it yeah that's pretty funny so that's it their idea the Republicans are in the Trump stirs think it's you know these kind of deep state coup that's34/72
going on and it's like the story that's being told so that the deep steak and house Trump and take over by force yeah it really doesn't seem like like anyone gives a [ __ ] about how sting Trump anymore except the Democrats basically right and even then they ain't like seem to give it lip service right because they're top ones anyway right they give him all35/72
they they look for all his power and stuff they keep yeah and even Nancy Pelosi has come out and said you know impeachments probably not maybe maybe it's time for our party to start advancing some sort of actual policy or like thing like anything they think like any sort of we are a party and we believe this and we will do this and maybe do something36/72
for people do literally anything actual things how what a privilege really to get so involved in Russia gate espionage laughing at the expense of every other you know every other issue it's so [ __ ] annoying and they'll talk to I'll talk [ __ ] about people like you as being a privileged white lady yeah you say that you talking about this Russia there's real stuff37/72
happening oh my god we're trying to impeach the president you privileged lady only it takes a real life of privilege to be able to obsess over that the way these people do right okay what amounts to even in their brains amounts to a few Facebook guys yeah and some some putting some ideas in people's heads sharing some information that that they didn't want shared yeah was38/72
sharing truth you know that's what they ultimately they can't prove that anymore they see I've noticed if they don't they don't really go for the WikiLeaks yeah Facebook ads yeah you spent some nickels and dimes on Facebook ads yeah but anyway I digress the real issue here though is actually you know the P knuckles are P knack what they were there on they really want they39/72
want global domination of the American nations they're like the American nation needs to be the one in charge the grand policeman the the the big brand new bar of the planet and a husband for who you know what 2030 is now well the people who own it have that anyway yeah say and they can see that being threatened by the giant presence of China like as40/72
it builds a very different kind of idea of of what the planet should look like yeah multipolar one cuz like what's that article you quoted a little while ago about there was some some British politician guy who said that Russia is planning to do as much damage as possible to Britain and to kill thousands and thousands of British people you just said that yes free consent41/72
and that's normal now you could just say that so if you can trust what a country like England normally does how they normally react to America with how China acts yeah and they're like they're basically like now we're gonna do our own thing we're gonna try and you know get our own currency off the ground isn't yeah we get a billion in some people they like42/72
we can do whatever we like yeah and the currency thing is very frightening because the currency in America the US dollar is pretty much held up by the at gunpoint yeah I like to think of it as the US dollar is basically like it's a it's a bar and there's a guy with a gun and a wallet and these wallet is full of paper slips it43/72
just slips a blank paper and he's got this gun out and he's pointing it at everyone in the bar and saying you guys are gonna treat these pieces of paper like they're hundred-dollar bills right you're gonna treat these like that exactly yeah yeah well good analogy let you go in an article though yep it no it's just like that especially the way that the US has44/72
fostered relationships at Middle Eastern countries and other countries that have oil interest and insisted that they use the US dollar to trade in for oil reserves which you know artificially inflates the u.s. dollar because it's not the Americans oil reserves that are that they're actually dealing in they'd they'd that's their resources and if they were dealing with them in their own currency then their currency would45/72
be elevated but yeah and that's we talk about this a lot Saddam Hussein I think it was in 2000 stopped selling us stopped selling oil in US Dollars and switched to Euros he switched to the petrol euro right and then lo and behold right away and that you know yeah that's that's a lesson that has repeated itself and then weeks later weeks later literally weeks later46/72
after the invasion they switched it back yes that was that was like priority number one that was that was you know they hadn't even finished rebuilding it they hadn't even started rebuilding yeah I mean that's I'm not saying that is that that is the only reason why they did that that was not the only reason for the war but it definitely was one of them definitely47/72
made it a lot more urgent yeah yeah say yeah because they had that deal with the Saudis since the 70s which was the same thing the the petrodollar deal and and and that was all the Saudis had to do was was sell oil in US dollars and ordered a in order to get you know American weapons and weapons deals and stuff and and as a be48/72
a military ally and they made out like bandits and that just came out a little while ago that's true right and then there was Libya Gaddafi was getting together with the other nations in Africa and looking to get a gold-backed sort of currency that yeah and that was very threatening and suddenly he's killed in the med school gory way and he's subjective libya is a failed49/72
state now thanks to sell they sell people they sell people thanks Hillary yeah she thought that was a good idea prison that that is that was her idea we should always remember that I just like to say that because that was what she thinks is a good idea Hillary should call up Libya and tell Olivia how proud she Olivia the Hillary Hillary Clinton recently recently came50/72
out that Hillary Clinton had an employee who was getting a bunch of sexual assault complaints about him at at the workplace and then and and he suffered no consequences and then her employee went to work for David Brock our friend who we were just talking about mister poison and and then wound up getting in trouble for sexual harassment and Hillary Clinton says tweet that she called51/72
this woman and said how proud she is over yeah this victim the victim of one of the Predators she always surrounds herself with my god imagine if you got that phone call as I get Hillary Clinton yeah through the veins you know like good but Yahoo dude would smash that phone and then check under my car Thanks yeah yeah Wow like you know and and the52/72
funny thing was all that [ __ ] headed liberals was like yeah yeah Loreen she's such a champion of women or whatever like it was such an obvious mafia move wasn't it like hello I mean you know I'm here didn't intimidate you and be your friend tended to be friend um yeah so anyway well so off track we've so did good that the gay that happens53/72
um yeah so so so the bet to China China it's about change change training training training its finer training the so Russia gate is ultimately about deposing him and you talk about how like Eric SWA well the congressman he he flat-out said yeah we're trying to cut Russia off from the world which would be a perfect way to break China's right arm he wants to just54/72
get a ridiculous amount of sanctions going and [ __ ] Russia so that it can't be operating as China's right arm anymore right and you know I've seen actually this happen in Australia because we've kind of messaged our relationship with the Chinese for a very long time we have not considered them at all and enemy in fact like yeah we think they buy up all this55/72
property here and stuff and we hand over pretty much everything and we've been propagandized here to really think of them as as as helpful well that's changed ah and quite quickly and they had to move quite quickly and it's been quite confusing for Australians what you picked up on that so the Talking Heads are talking about China as like an enemy now yeah and they wrecked56/72
you know they're admonishing ministers for for having relationships with Chinese oh yeah that's a trip yeah like your article got me interested in so I started doing some research and I was watching some John Pilger stuff and he's showing all these military bases surrounding China like a noose everybody's US military bases and and some of them are right here in Australia yeah and and that's a57/72
just a really handy way and like the US military has done drills with Australia in in the area where we're you know they're conducting operations where the only real reason you would be doing that is to prepare for a possible war with China right so it you know the guy in the bar with the gun and he's got the gun pointed right at China's face not