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Title: HealthCare vs. Health Business- Turkeys Rise in Healthcare Tourism
Published: 2019-03-31
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oTgRqx4dsc
Title: HealthCare vs. Health Business- Turkeys Rise in Healthcare Tourism
Published: 2019-03-31
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oTgRqx4dsc
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if you were to ask anyone to list the top three most important things in life you'd find one word showing up on everyone's list held whether on our wish list or thankful for lists how is always there thus it is not surprising to see health care on the criteria list of many in the decision-making a stage of becoming an expert it certainly was on my list2/30
before I relocated to Turkey and the consideration was not only for my own benefit it was for my ten-year-old daughter and spouse actually it went even further than that for us the health care issue was about finances as well allow me to explain for the past six years while living in the United States my daughter and I were paying a total of eight hundred dollars per3/30
month for health insurance coverage that's right a whopping sum of eight hundred dollars per month more or less ten thousand dollars a year and you know what this amount for two super healthy individuals with zero pre-existing illnesses or health conditions and the new family history of any health problems wait there is more this $10,000 a year paid to one of very few health insurance companies in4/30
Oregon Oregon state requires that you use Oregon based insurance companies was the cheapest the lowest price we could get because we my daughter and I each had to have 7,000 dollars deductible policy meaning no matter what happened we had to pay the first seven thousand dollars out of our own pockets and only after that the health insurance company would pay our medical costs yes you heard5/30
that right we the two of us with zero pre-existing health issues and only four major catastrophic medical emergencies were paying $10,000 a year for six years during which we were never reimbursed for any medical costs because you may say luckily we never incurred any medical bill over $7,000 for any illnesses here in Turkey the medical care which is considered very high quality based on global standards6/30
is free to all citizens to include my expat family members non-citizens and be eligible to receive extra benefits from private hospitals as well I have to pay 65 Turkish lira per month Amiga twelve dollars a month think about it twelve dollars per month 800 dollars per month no deductibles no BS top-notch facilities state-of-the-art equipment stellar doctors with qualified degrees per international Western standards all that for7/30
free for citizens and $12 per month for expat families can you imagine my relief but I was able to cancel that income second $800 good for nothing us a health insurance oh yes we even celebrated during the last few years Turkey has been ranking as one of the world's top medical and healthcare tourism countries I will provide you with a few links in the show notes8/30
in 2017 more than 700 thousand medical tourists came to Turkey for services let me give you a few examples the cost of an angiography is $47,000 in the united states $13,000 in singapore $11,000 in India and $10,000 in Thailand wild $5000 in Turkey cardiac valve surgery is $150,000 in the United States minimal and it is $17,000 in Turkey and check this fact out most of these9/30
medical tourists are coming to Turkey from Europe and Russia not third-world countries when compared with Europe in Turkey the average patients waiting time was a maximum of two weeks excluding transportation but this process could reach 18 months in European Western countries and here is one more impressive fight Turkey has been ranked as the third country when it comes to the quality of medical standards and care10/30
third and this is the entire world and all these costs and related facts that I provided you pertain to foreign tourists coming to Turkey for medical care for Turks the cost is basically nothing the waiting time pretty much does not exist here in Turkey Healthcare is health services a fulfillment of one of the most basic human needs unlike the United States where health care is a11/30
business a very very very expensive business with ludicrously high profit margins now let's listen to my British expat friends Terry and Jane with direct experiences with the Turkish healthcare system for expats for the past 13 years [Music] [Music] so they he drove you to the hospital and he said the symptoms I've got I was Gately just like I was drunk thought I'd be okay in the12/30
morning and I got something X morning I starting the channel I don't feel right my daughter phoned up to see you all right mom listen she's just speeches funny I said I think I've had a stroke she told my gosh get dad to take you to the hospital straightaway well tell him when he wakes up anyway I woke him up and he rushed me straight down13/30
living there marvelous but they took me straight into the emergency and one of the interpreters came straight away and was talking me through telling me what they were doing and why they were doing it so you could have a brain scan and Oh scary MRI yes I put a tablet under your toe straight away Oh heart attack that's for heart attack now yes well no it's14/30
full stroke as well oh so it works for both I don't know that you know if you feel a stroke coming on you put the tablet under your tongue they knew right away that it was stroke and what did it mix I can't really remember much well no you wouldn't I remember it quite well took me up to I had that done that went up to15/30
the water they just treated me from there okay not kept you an observation food a week five days in the hospital so you were overnight patient yes five days it was the attitude of the people we're not used to the whole structure being quite so fast we used to be a different system we're really here we get you get treated right you matter whereas previous experiences16/30
our system of the UK is a bureaucratic nightmare which i think is the same for all the Western world now too many chiefs if you like not enough Indians some extraordinarily good caring professional able people buried under a pile of paperwork but yeah so quick and when you when you're not well I'm with game remember in the foreign country not speak the language wonder what expected17/30
to it would cease people taking the situation and dealing with it so thoroughly professionally and thoughtfully was a huge relief okay the main physician who was in charge during your stroke he was a specialist for hey Suleiman and he had what years of experience younger doctor did he speak English no I know it's going to sound I don't know maybe shallow but that's important for me18/30
as well what kind of at the end of the process with this what kind of bill what kind of bill did you get was it like what I'm just gonna guess fifty thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars no no wasn't twenty thousand lira do you have insurance no no because we'd only been here nine months not that six months six if you had the government insurance the19/30
first year you can't play as residents right so you had no Turkish insurance no Turkey your British system wouldn't cover here so if we were to convert this amount to dollar I'll be talking about like five thousand dollars no less more I don't remember exactly how much it was for that I mean I remember some of the cost I remember they cost the same there's a20/30
pintail for the many towns and various other problems and I do remember how much that cost that particular occasion a stroke I just $2,000 $3,000 that will be like 500 $600 well exchange rate at that time was about okay so still would be thousand-dollar let's say and this included the MRIs how many MRI sessions if you have only one or and staying in the hospital for21/30
a week for five days for five days medicine I be a blood test oh yeah you and test yes everything so you had blood tests and urine tests an MRI and about four or five nights and days of hospital stay and this special [Music] I have a question and this is this is an example because I'm sure in Europe is not that bad but in the22/30
US as they take me or my husband into the emergency room to the MRI room whoever is the spouse the administrative people they grab and they say show how much money you have your credit card and everything so while you were going through this as foreigners expats with no insurance here and you're in this amazing modern hospital did they grab you to say we're gonna give23/30
her all the services how do we know you can't pay for her services or not so what if you were not able to pay save alright now this month I don't have this money I don't know about that experience I could as residents we have emergency treatment anywhere including our residences in Turkey yes yeah we're pretty much the treatment we have to pay for medication but24/30
not for this stuff but you look Jen collapsed on the market for example after cooperation called a municipal what would emerge you straight away no messing about no for most of the night like that what she was known to him anyway she's a regular all we had to pay for was the trip honestly what was your confidence level the let's say the doctor this specialist did25/30
you feel confident saying this man knows what he's doing yeah yes and no cuz I was scared of course really what he was saying no how about after the fact after you went wrong oh yeah no problem at all well all the doctors here all the ones I have dealt with I've got 100% faith in them all they haven't let you down yeah always takes the26/30
time something happened my experience in European hospital one of the particular British ones getting the appointment is the biggest challenge you might take three weeks it might take six weeks or whatever our problems in the u.s. is the Ross I went down to hospital earlier in the year I walked in went the tourist office I saw the consultant was without boy I saw the consultant an27/30
hour later once add some tests and I was out again got the medication came home so we looked total just over two hours I'm relieved problem identified problem solved [Music] I just received my own shock I was he you know my daughter and I in the Indus things we have been paying $850 a month for insurance the two of us as a family and each one28/30
of us having $6,000 deductibles $6,000 for her $6,000 for me thankfully I never had anything serious that went beyond that but on the other hand for 10 years insurance has not paid a single penny because I've never met the $6,000 everything goes out of pocket and if you don't have it you don't get it okay tell you the figures operation that was years ago that's an29/30
operation itself the room cost I think you remember was 14,000 there and that time the exchange rate would have been about 353 signal to the pan so when you consider quite complex surgery I see you afterwards and then room costs and then of course return for my season 2 of bridge the gap with Sibel Edmonds I would like to delve further into healthcare related topics our