Glenn Greenwald, NSA Documents & Checkbook Journalism

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Title: Glenn Greenwald, NSA Documents & Checkbook Journalism - BFP Roundtable #02
Published: 2013-12-19
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9K5I8SIwoM

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scandal well I don't know Willett's let's put a question mark next that for now and let's start putting on some of the analysis out there on the table so for those of you who have not been following this article series of course we will encourage you to go to boiling frog postdoc on and take a look at these articles starting with the article that came out

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out too much laughing or smiling which I usually get in I still have many stitches inside my mouth I had this surgery and so you you'd notice all kind of awkward and now we are features or mimics or whatever here please forgive me I haven't recuperated yet and it's hard not to smile and laugh and I'm with people I really enjoy being with but ugh several

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enough to get those documents to give it to the public and say here it is you need to know what your government is doing okay that absolutely I I support that person I support manning I support anyone who has that much but and who was that I know I don't like the word patriotic but less a peak yachting in terms update he wants to serve his

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are you know people use nation but I I I kept saying I don't have enough details to form any making you know conclusive opinion because I'm still looking at this case and the more time started to pass and the more I started reading and the more I started seeing and the more I started hearing are you edicts case became more and more convoluted and you mentioned

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past the hour okay and the fact that the other two people who have gotten book deals from Washington post and guardian because they got mobile suit they don't have what he has still he's done and make sure that those documents are not released so the publisher will profit from it and he will deserve millions of dollars on that and then a month later he goes and

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it myself well in this case this guy Snowden has given land Greenwald all the documents say I leave it up to your judgment to do as you wish well if his purpose to start when it was obtaining those documents the government's calling it stealing yet so that the public will get to know yeah giving it to a person that he has never met before he doesn't

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you went sort of the the route that that BFP has taken say you know a subscription based model are I'd venture to guess against Greenwald and ski hill could round up quite a bit quite a bit of subscribers enough to to make a comfortable living so %HESITATION having said all that you know again initially I I was sort of torn by the by the by the

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you touch is so many zeros at the end of a check I think that that's enough to change %HESITATION anybody well maybe not anybody but that's enough to change a lot of people are perhaps even someone like a Greenwalt but let's put that aside for the moment and focus on okay we'll look at this guy specifically right Pierre Omidyar are there is of really obvious and

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very a clear conflict of interest there right %HESITATION that we know we know for a fact well and I guess in say for a fact we flew him up with a pretty good idea that that PayPal does indeed cooperate with the NSA angry because as abundant as much you said he has no doubts that PayPal does cooperate with the NSA which is something that's worth what

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what's grilling him on it if you if that's true S. about pointed out one of her articles and how do you know that how do you have no doubt that that that is the case %HESITATION and if there is no doubt in your mind that that PayPal has cooperated with the NSA and your new boss owns PayPal is that not a conflict of interest and it's

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a date at BB correct me if I'm wrong transmissible I have not seen %HESITATION Greenwald say anything to that fact acknowledging the fact that it is a clearly a conflict of interest and what he plans to do about it now if he had addressed it instead of going the route that he did go which we pointed out on the podcast reported resorting to ad hominem and

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that is in need the millions of dollars SF I said a couple times on the on the radio show on the podcast that I don't think anything wrong with making money even if it's a lot of money nothing inherently wrong with that but for someone in Greenwald's position %HESITATION he doesn't really again need that too to move forward with his career he's got you know again

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the the Clinton treatment all brand firmly %HESITATION built in firmly intact so I'm I don't know what you guys in the think about how to say about that I mean like I guess again he I I think he you know he didn't need this abides she should have turned it down could have turned it down what you guys think I personally I would say that I

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find it %HESITATION eh somewhat disturbing as you say I'm the the amount of money that's involved in this I'd I can't imagine what ski hill and Greenwald in portraits and friends need with a quarter of a billion already sick and that's at a just a staggering sum of money almost a mind blowing amount of money for adventure like this so I again I can't even imagine

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why they would think they would need that much for for what they're doing but then again we don't know what they're doing yet at this point so we'll see what kind of %HESITATION pseudo mainstream type of outlet they're going to come out with to try to compete with I guess the New York times I don't know what you're really thinking they're going to do well on

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this day I still wonder I and I don't understand how a retired and this the official could have any indication what is in these Snowden documents even as the official line is the the NSA still doesn't even know exactly what Snowden got his hands on that's what they're officially saying anyway so so how does he know this how do how can we know that here I

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am has this information in the first place that's a ballot that's a valid question before I answer that question one other thing that you were talking about the heat how is also a review waltz my being and twisting and giving some rarely no answer answer on why doing this deal he said I'm doing it because we need attorneys many editors and we need to have an

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that to publish this that's not true again that is one thing that is being twice that he had all that and guardian they said they it was unexpected they were very surprised and they were very %HESITATION upset that this is the place they wish them good luck now back to your question the NSA of sorts that I have and I have to delete the name of

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me were shot how he had every single page okay you're talking about ends up thousands of documents later the same man Greenwald came as that we still don't know what's in those documents okay there's so much it's going to take years for us to know what is what they desire I mean once you start getting into it and get all that information or maybe it's the

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so many contradictions that side that don't become apparent until you start trying to sort through all these different statements that have been made at different times so it's difficult to even know what the official word on this is at any given time but %HESITATION just another connection to add to this mix that I I I I I I found recently that really I think I am

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has it it really settled in my mind one way or another is that not only of course is a midi are directly connected to PayPal being the co founder of eBay and the largest shareholder in eBay and sitting as the chair of the bay the parent company of PayPal %HESITATION but also there is someone who is on the %HESITATION eh down the OBD our network which

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to add at this point yes he said ships really are a lot of different points that we could focus on I have a couple of things that that that %HESITATION as you guys were talking and found interesting where the %HESITATION of sort of la expanding on but the one thing that that we have been talking back and forth about recently has been the strategy involved whether

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prize of focusing on Greenwald and Snowden rather than the and I say and what they're doing other surveillance %HESITATION so mean I could probably even now I mean I I I could answer my own question but I wanna let's I'll let you answer that are as far as of what you would say to those people are who are who are you know saying that this is

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what's going on %HESITATION what would you say about that why I'm saying this is I was reminding of this recent announcement into a talk with that Vivian wisely it has sucked but that should I don't we try not to make you smile lets you