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Sirius Disclosure
Published: 2013-11-29
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4hycqDNnPE
I was so in the United States Air Force from nineteen the January eighteenth nineteen sixty four until October eighteenth nineteen Stier I got out of the air to go back to school click %HESITATION when I left a my rank with sergeant they had a top secret crypto security clearance I had worked with Tactical Air Command in Langley airforce base Virginia the forty four forty fourth reconnaissance
technical was involved photograph the they were working with the planes spy satellite photography before anyone knew we had it at that point and time no one knew that we were doing spy photography spy satellite photography %HESITATION of course no one knew we had the you'd do you to program operating or what the capabilities that program work we also did %HESITATION gun camera and %HESITATION reconnaissance film
from C. one thirties all sorts of of aircraft that were going into combat situations we processed of the film for that it was %HESITATION nineteen sixty five %HESITATION I believe it was about June or July of nineteen sixty five sometime in that time frame %HESITATION my boss came to me I was working in a color lab at that time I was a technician photographic technician with
the you know background electronics I've been trained in electronic photographic repair eta in Colorado at %HESITATION Lowry airforce base actually the school the year long the organization that I was it was a brand new %HESITATION installation it was %HESITATION put in place to facilitate a the %HESITATION the escalation of the Vietnam War so we were in a new facility I had come there in January of
nineteen sixty five start that facility of %HESITATION we install all the equipment %HESITATION there were there were it would everything from printing presses we were doing mapmaking as well we're also when things were involved in was doing a automatic terrain sensing we would do we have simulators that did train with you you put a huge map of this sort in the in the simulator terrain map
any fluid camera over that and did a recording of the train then they installed that fill in a plane and the plane and then flying under radar it's called patron and no one knew we had that capability the times well so we we were installing all that equipment yeah right I was in a color lab one day when my my boss sergeant staff sergeant Taylor came
over to me and said that they were having a problem with some equipment %HESITATION on the base it was the first lunar orbiter program where they had a mission to pretty much locate the first landing sites for the %HESITATION for the nineteen sixty nine a lunar mission for the astronauts so at any rate he said they're having some problem with equipment over there it was a
similar quid that we had was computerized content pretty equipment anyone didn't know if I would go over and take a look at it he said to me it's a it's an essay facility at the time I didn't know what an essay words I was pretty naive and I thought he said NASA so in my mind all of for a long time I thought it was a
NASA facility that I've gone to but I remember him saying NSA and converting it in my own mind to NASA and for viewers the NSA is it's the National Security Agency and I don't know much about the National Security Agency until probably ten or fifteen years ago that the nursing thing when it when this when when this my my boss came to me at that point
time I only had a top secret security clearance I didn't get my crypto security clearance for a few more weeks takes it takes years to get a high level security clearance like that and they start that when you're in school and only the %HESITATION the honor graduates from the schools of the people who get the high level security clearances they also get to choose their their
duty assignment is really quite nice it just was a fluke I just happen to be well prepared for what I was doing when I went to school and how did you get to be in a position where you actually were to deal with the material we are about to discuss I I was asked to go over to this facility on Langley airforce base where the NSA
was bring in the information from the lunar orbiter and so I packed up some tools I went over %HESITATION I went into the facility as they approach the facility it was very lightly guarded I mean the base was under high security in a great I was surprised that there wasn't %HESITATION a higher level of security outside the facility as I look back on it later I
went into the facility I gave them my low level security patch they gave me a higher level security badge %HESITATION a couple of officers took me into this hangar was a very large hangar as I walked in there were there were people from other countries a lot of foreign people from other countries in civilian clothes with interpreters with them with security badges hanging around their neck
and the first thing I thought to myself if this is NASA what are all these foreigners through here where all these people from other countries speaking another language didn't make any sense to me and I was really quite impressed with that it just didn't grok you know I was you know whatever whatever all of these people doing here and they were very quiet very reserved and
there was a very peculiar Powell hanging over them %HESITATION they were very they had a very concerned demeanor okay so they took me into this laboratory I took a look at the equipment that was an airman second class in there I was in himself classes well he turned the equipment and and put it through its paces it didn't do what it was supposed to do I
saw what was going on with it I said I need to do some troubleshooting on it it had little prince circuit boards it with discrete components at that time was before we had integrated circuit and I said to him you know we'll have to take the sting out of the lab before going to work on it I can't work in it on it in here in
the dark room environment so he called someone to get some people come in and move it was about the size of a small apartment refrigerator it when you know wasn't something you could easily move so everyone left the facility left the darkroom except this airman second class myself and Morgan waiting for someone to come to remove this piece so while I'm in there I said to
him I'm really fascinated with this process how did they get the images from the lunar orbiter to the laboratory here and he went through the whole process describing how the various from radio telescopes around the world were linkedin they tell a meter the data into Langley field and at the time I didn't know what the real purpose of this dark room in this operation in this
facility was I thought this was where they were bringing the data in and then releasing the images to the public I had no idea that there were other issues involved in in this facility so he he starts telling me all of this information and I knew that what we were doing was was it's classified anyway and that he could only share a certain level of what
he was doing with me because the park compartmentalize nature of of our jobs in any rate IBM and he told me however thing work to show me the equipment where the digital information came in where was converted to photographic images they were doing thirty five millimeter strips film at that time which were then assembled and eighteen and a half by eleven inch %HESITATION mosaics they were
called there is a digital signature in grayscale on every thirty five millimeter strip and those those strips were from successive passes around the moon and they would take and build up a photograph even scanned one section the moon then another and another and then they would get a larger image so this mosaic then will be put in that contact printer and that was then %HESITATION print
that was issued to whomever the press the scientist whatever wherever that was intended to go so he was showing me how all this worked and we walked over to one side of the lab he said by the way we've discovered a base on the backside of the moon I said I said who is fifty working fifteen homes he said yes there is that we've discovered a
base on the backside of the moon and at that point I cut became frightened and was little terrified thinking myself than anybody walks in the room now I know where we were in jeopardy we're in trouble because he should be giving formation I was fascinated by but I also knew that he was overstepping a boundary that he should stepping over and then he pulled out one
of these mosaics and showed show this base Chad geometric shapes that were towers there were %HESITATION spherical of buildings %HESITATION they're very tall towers and things that looked somewhat like radar dishes but there were large structures so I %HESITATION I didn't say more to him because I was concerned again this summer is going to come in it anymore it catches having this conversation we would be
in in in real trouble I realize that he was telling me this information because he didn't have anybody else to talk to now probably in that laboratory he was probably the one of the few %HESITATION yeah enlisted people when he was a worker bee and he had a high level security clearance obviously but he couldn't share that information with anybody else in those days we didn't
when you had your security clearance you took it seriously it isn't like today where people don't take these things seriously we had a different set of morals and ethics and values that's the way we were raised and we we stayed bound by those agreements so it was rare that someone would would do something like this but this fellow and I were the same rank I think
he he was very distressed %HESITATION he he had the same power demeanor is the scientists outside the room they were just as concerned as he was and he needed he needed to discuss that with somebody so that was the end of it right there I didn't take it any further than that I you know I I just filed it away but the interesting thing every day
that I went home I would think to myself I can't wait to hear pope to slam the nicu stick up and you know so I turn on the TV and I'd look at the news to see if they're gonna announced we discovered a base for the fact that being really nice he is and course here it is thirty some years later and we still haven't heard
about it but %HESITATION I want it it at the time I had been given about thirty of these photographs now that they were photographs of artifacts in them but they were photographs from that contact printer I had some of them autographed by doctor colleague who is the head of the project at that time and when I left San Francisco a few years ago I actually sold
the mowing the yard sale because I was tired carrying them around and I may have a couple of files away someplace but it was probably one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made what was really interesting is I'm not sure what the resolution on those photographs were but I know that we could discern from the satellite photography we were doing in our installation you could read
the license number off car at that point in time so I know we had that low of technology available whether or not it was on that lunar orbiter I don't know this also always brings to question in my mind why we're getting so such low resolution and photographs that we receive from Mars and any of these other missions the resolution of these photographs is very low
when we've had since the early sixties the capability of much higher resolution so I'm not sure what that's all about that always that question always comes up in mine if I compare it to what I'm seeing now because I do have photographs that have artifacts in them that are similar to what I saw their massive some of the structures are you know half a mile in
in in size so they're they're huge structures you know I mean the end they're all different size structures in different photographs you would have to have an above top secret purity click which generally would be crypto of cryptologic were above in my case you know I ultimately did have a cripple logic security clearance and when I did have that clearance I had access to all of
the imagery %HESITATION from the U. to's from the satellite photography had access to everything we're doing now that the thing that was interesting about my job as an electronics technician I got to go into every area of the facility I got to go into the war room it and sac Strategic Air Command and and did maintenance on equipment there so I would see a lot of
data that people generally wouldn't see with my rake normally we go into your job you do your one little task if your photographic interpreter that's all you did you didn't discuss what you did with anyone else if you worked on you to imagery worked on you to have a tree you worked on satellite imagery work on satellite imagery she didn't discuss your job with anyone else
and you only did your your task if you were a photographic processor you only process the images you were not allowed to discuss what you saw in those images with anyone we were briefed extensively about what this compartmentalize this compartment of the nation looked like you know you didn't have conversations about what so for me I got to go into all these different areas and see
what each of these people were doing and some of them did share what they were doing they would have photographs of of the missile emplacements above theirs above their desk that they discovered or that have photographs of the missiles on the decks of the of the year the Russian aircraft here's or I'd see various %HESITATION fresh boil from satellite photography around a missile emplacement in the
Sinai Peninsula we had in in one room in our organization we had a map of the Sinai Peninsula at that time it was made up from satellite photography was a mosaic and it was sixty feet high and six why it was massive with great detail so there it is just it was fastened and I saw vehicles like I saw vehicles on the satellite photography that that
you could read the license plate they actually show me that so I know that that was something that was real anyway getting back to the carb compartmental station I had access to lots of different areas only because I was a technician moving from area to area you know the person would have that kind of access would have been an officer with a high level security clearance
that had a need to know bottom line if you didn't have a need to know there wasn't any reason to discuss what you knew with anyone else and even if someone asked if they didn't have a need to know they did have security clergy could discuss it with them everyone everyone wears a security badge with a specific color and you know that that colorism represents a
specific level of security clearance and as you move from area to area within an organization you get into higher and higher levels of security area %HESITATION you'll go through a gate you go into a vault you exchanger your badge for another batch of high level security your brief down your job as to what your level of conversation can be with another person you know I was