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Title: Turkey, Syria and the Kurdish Question - The Eyeopener
Published: 2015-08-13
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gezoESK0qX8
Title: Turkey, Syria and the Kurdish Question - The Eyeopener
Published: 2015-08-13
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gezoESK0qX8
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welcome back friends is James Corbett of corporate report dot com outcome if you on the thirteenth of August two thousand fifteen and I'm sure I don't need to tell my regular viewers that some big things are afoot in Turkey right now and in Syria where things are heating up once again so we have a very special guests lined up for you today to talk about that2/81
we're talking to Sibel Edmonds who I'm sure the regular followers of boiling frog postdoc home and the probable cause podcast will know has been out of the country %HESITATION in the region actually for well of that too long now altogether too long so back from the region with some Intel and to update us on what's happening there is Sibel Edmonds boiling frog postdoc constable thank you3/81
for joining us today thank you for inviting me James I'm jet lagged so I'm trying not to slur too much whole rate well I won't I'll try not to tax you too much but I do want to get out some of this information that %HESITATION that you have stored up here so let's talk about this region obviously again as people know things are heating up once4/81
again in Syria partially due to an agreement that was reached between Washington and Ankara on July twenty seventh forest creation of some isel free zones which %HESITATION Turkey may be interpreting as %HESITATION Kurdish free zones basically but up but let's let's set the scene of that agreement by talking about an incident that took place a week before it was reached in the southeastern Turkish town of5/81
suruc where the US social in the federation of socialist youth were preparing %HESITATION basically an expedition to Kobani across the border to Syria to help the reconstruction of that %HESITATION that devastated %HESITATION area and slowing behold a terrorist bombing strikes on leaving thirty one dead and close to a hundred injured %HESITATION very dramatic incident that of course ramps up the tension and pick a basically allows6/81
for Turkey to say Hey way were under attack we have to ram something up and then lo and behold they reach an agreement with Washington to do so a very interesting bombing in terms of its timing but %HESITATION I understand you were in the region when this happened what's so what's your take on what actually happened there in Zurich well about two weeks before the incident7/81
I was talking with them person there who is with the special military unit in Turkey and I am very highly specialized unit and I was told %HESITATION that is order directive has been given for a school extensive war preparation going from Verde happened to that's the we and for operation that's was going to start at the end of April and be finished within six months which8/81
would bring us to about November wit expectations oak triggering events taking place in the month of July and so in the months of may and June actually Turkish special forces and other units including medical units have been setting setting up special barracks to handle any injured extender %HESITATION etcetera along the border so that conversation I had actually two weeks before the event and I was Whitten9/81
hundred fifty kilometers off of where the event took place and again this was expected to say that in July triggering events we're going to take place so that's for damn portion of it but other %HESITATION kind of strange events took place from people I spoke wait of certain eye witnesses %HESITATION where rounded up before they were able to give their statement to their media at that10/81
showed up there within half within an hour or so and that's was highly mysterious there were many many speculations around that's why they rounded up these %HESITATION eye witnesses I guess some of those people were %HESITATION told what to tell the media again that's the speculation others maybe didn't even speak with the media but %HESITATION there has been differing %HESITATION I witness accounts of what how11/81
it took place and not only that a few days before the a defense %HESITATION by at just the indirect or unintentional leaked a certain newspaper reporter was told that some female suicide bombers are going to attack targets within Turkey and is going to happen you know within this month so whether it was an intentional leak or not I don't know but the fact that the Turkish12/81
intelligence agencies and the police they had supposedly it is that these chips so it was not unexpected it didn't come as a shock the casualties of course where ed major major shock especially considering the people who work hard get it there each was you know way it's obscene to be killing you know two birds with one stone of or for the group that had their meeting13/81
and this is an NGO volunteer group who try to set up parts etcetera for under privileged %HESITATION segments of the population in that region so there again lots of %HESITATION highly questionable %HESITATION situations there but beat some speculations what I would say for me personally it went beyond the speculations as I said two weeks before that I was told that this was a time line and14/81
this was going to happen and he used a con certain agreements between Turkey and the United States I will get into the obstacles that are on the way because it's not written in the style of the agreement between US and Turkey and Syria very interesting and %HESITATION let's keep in mind this also took place in a highly sensitive region in Senate and that Sarek San Onofre15/81
a corridor where Turkish intelligence and security are all over the place so I'm again highly suspicious but it does set the stage for this agreement with however strong or weak that agreement may be let's talk a little bit about the implications of what's been happening there for the last couple of weeks in where we see this going forward from here obviously as we reported here on16/81
corporate reports recently this agreement essentially is %HESITATION being used by Turkey has a green card to start you know basically bombing via the the Kurdish shot into trying to get rid of the Kurdish up from the area as well as creating these Kurdish free zones as well as the isel free zones that apparently Washington was supposedly going for here but I think everyone knows that this17/81
is all I am something of an excuse %HESITATION for everyone every vested interest in Syria to to use this towards their own agenda let's get your own take on what is developing from this agreement and where it's going from here well again yet you basically touched upon the highlights or what's the best that interests would accomplish from these attacks but the agreement as far as the18/81
agreement goes it is you know very very ball tiles situation of because of one she wore out one major major factor and that's the Kurdish factor because I don't know if you have been following you details but the United States have been coming on and off saying that they have a better chance to join forces with the Kurdish factions in the area area and that's not19/81
only for Syrian Kurdish faction but also %HESITATION along the Turkish borders and also in northern Iraq because you're looking at the largest ethnic group without land in the world today you're looking at tens and tens of millions of Kurdish people and the fact that this is what US has been saying they are better trained they know the area better they are more %HESITATION there are more20/81
of the savvy in terms of fighting guerrilla warfare especially the special terrains in the mountainous regions off that no one in Iraq and of course node in Syria etcetera wealth that has been a major no no with Turkey in fact for this agreement to take place now just recently versus let's say six months or two years ago that has always been a major a disagreement between21/81
Turkey and the United States so Turkey has been saying we will do it and will basically do your dirty laundry and you can have not only your own face this is the United States L. United States base in Incirlik Adana but also be providing you the use free use of our other other bases behalf and as you know with the recent attack bombing there were US22/81
forces in a special %HESITATION Turkish days using the groans that's where remotely controlled the in now Nevada and and that's that's exactly what was used so there were some really good interesting pictures there on Turkish in Turkish newspapers so %HESITATION dad has been a huge issue between that and between Turkey and the United States and United States also has been telling Turkey that %HESITATION but we23/81
are also hesitant doing certain things which you are agreeing on certain %HESITATION items that your request thing because the moment we give you some of these %HESITATION let's take the green light together with that with then needed to out you know weaponry etcetera you're going to turn around and use it on Kurtz and %HESITATION I really need to pause here because I know many of the24/81
people listening and watching they have no idea who Kurdish people are and though I was all fortunate really because of the coverage I guess in mainstream media but also the smile small mindedness of people say why do I need to know about Kurds are white I need to know about these details seeing these as insignificant details of this is not for those people %HESITATION what I25/81
want to talk about is the Kurdish factor is not only important for United States in this case of Syria Kurds in northern Iraq have been used again this has not been reported by U. S. media since we went to Iraq in two thousand three two thousand four Israel has established several bases in northern Iraq okay so there has been disagreement between Israelis and then order certain26/81
factions in northern Iraq okay to let you ask install these bases and they jointly operate many Israeli people are based there is there's just an informal on announced military base intelligence based combination combination for Israel to spy on Iran okay so that's number one but it goes beyond spying on Iran they are also trying to forged certain relationship and partnership with the Kurds in the run27/81
and again this is not supported ignorance out there but Iran also has a large population of cards there and that would be in northwestern Iraq so you're looking at best that interest and that was the very important see I have word that you use there so Israelis have vested interests on this card this court Kurdish issue okay that that the U. S. is right now having28/81
this trouble with Jackie turnips habit Syrians habit Iraqi government has it United States habits so right now the biggest factor issue that then the determinant factor out there is the Kurdish factor and I really don't see how it can be anyway put aside because it's some kind of a factor that can not be set aside and we see it but with the recent bombing in Istanbul29/81
the police station and because they are saying and again I don't know who to believe the newspapers including U. S. newspaper saying PKK claimed responsibility for that it day was it really PKK we don't know but I would say we need to watch the situation with the currents and this agreement specially with the latest statements from the United States that they are seeing the strategy of30/81
using and working with the Kurdish factions against ISIS which is not a guess eyes biases against up I saw a Assad's government a it's eh eat it makes that agreement kind of much more on a shake your grounds that it was even out with a week ago well that's right I mean again I think we have to understand that this agreement in the safe zones not31/81
really fundamentally about ISIS that all fundamentally about the Kurds and of course also at the foot in the door for the oil overthrow facade which is still has always been and continues to be the main priority after the U. S. at any rate I'm what are the other what's the position of the other a coal coalition members on this side the Jordanians the Saudis the Qataris32/81
the others that have helped ISIS do they have a position on the Kurdish issue in Perth in particular because they don't have Kurdish problem or a factor within their countries I would say that factor is not important but I'm glad you brought it up because I knew I heard rumors that began loading about two weeks ago in the region and that would be I was in33/81
Turkish region noted Iraq region so they're rumor was that in fact many of these female suicide bombers and supposedly many of them are still around and looking around and you stumble they are targeting at least three four targets in a stumble date date could say that certainty there were five of them highly dangerous with big tobacco with mission that they were going to use that the34/81
suicide bombing but the latest rumors keep becoming that in fact these women were not from Syria they were not Kurdish but that all these women are from Tunisia and that's was the first time I'm hearing all this stuff on Tunisia so I started now in my little things that I have with my favorite size putting the key words on each year to see what is about35/81
to happen there because where would that come from suddenly saying that these female suicide bombers are neither Kurdish or isis from from %HESITATION Syria but they are Tunisian women why would Tunisian women suicide bombers and up in Turkey but targets that just became begs the question some like you brought up about that point and Jordan always has been Jordan is already a done deal with U.36/81
S. the agreement as you and I reported before Syria beats eighteen headline used in the United States in two thousand eleven you're not covered the informant that the dead that gave us the tip on the and organ Iraq and also in in Jordan that basing Jordan but also my sources who told me that in two thousand eleven me United States little Turkey in luger like base37/81
in Adana so excited por part of Turkey day began bringing in training our means these factions factions the same ones that right now they're being called ISIS you know a gains aside and they were dead funneling them back into Syria so this is four years old assistance to thousand eleven me and go for six seven months after he reported Syria began slowly creeping into their headline38/81
use here in the United States so to say that %HESITATION ISIS and and what is ISIS I mean really of idiots SS south created M. brand name in fact another thing I would like to mention again from people who have been on both sides of the borders between Syria and Turkey and they are reporting blue eyed heavy thick British accent people not in dozens but in39/81
hundreds and they are grass as what we see depicted as ISIS and the people I spoke wait there they have no reason to come up with any conspiracy these are people actually work for arm Turkish military in in %HESITATION various %HESITATION positions and with different kinds of relationship but they're in a now and they're saying everybody knows it's not like I'm leaking and giving you some40/81
inside information but the region is swarming with heavily of British accented up bricks there no this wireless into you know this is a conspiracy theory it's now dominant Sunday expresses been reporting the SAS are dressing up as like this fighters that's absolutely mainstream news absolutely and many many many sources have reported this and is that I think was truck drivers were still going in and out41/81
between that between the two regions so that's for me that's a fact it's not some kind of and speculation or some kind of earlier no it certainly isn't and of course we're just seeing the exact same types of things that we saw in the run up to the other war in Libya so I against British special forces on the ground %HESITATION causing mayhem %HESITATION law alright42/81
so we are definitely seeing some sort of movement in Syria right now and it looks like it's following that sort of general trend that we usually see of a ramp up in the summer and some system psychological preparation events and then when everyone returns in the fall in September October likely some sort of actual action happening just as we saw at and attempts to get a43/81
Syrian invasion are underway at what was that was that two years ago now with a hands off using the Hon Kurdish factor exactly but do we have so does that fit in with the timeline that we're looking at here do we have any indication of what kind of time line were looking at if this is to go into some sort of more advanced stage operations area44/81
I think the initial based on what I was told that the initial plan and this was you S. Turkey planets was not Turkish plan was it would and within six months after April St will end in November but as I say as I said the question mark become a Kurdish question and in the past I would have said well we also need to watch and see45/81
what's going to happen with Russia and what kind of message what kind of stand we are going to witness and see from the Russian side and frankly James looking at up our team use of nauseating heat it I haven't been %HESITATION accepting any interview requests and they basically lost what make them special and they said okay now lists become more mainstream like while they are they46/81
are now died with a dozen you knows a dime a dozen and and they are there's no nothing to differentiate them from Algis zero or from any CNN etcetera but from what I see from what I read it seems like Russia has already given the green light because they are parroting exactly the same lines with ISIS that we see in mainstream media and the United States47/81
and that look was paper in Russia and %HESITATION lot of Russian tourists there there they have lots of money they're traveling in %HESITATION Turkey Eastern Europe in lavish resource I spoke with many off them because me ended up bumping into each other everywhere I went there were there are Russians I was talking with them and it seems to be the this very similar position as as48/81
that the majority here in the United States they days they they consider down the track even to a Russian interests the ISI as a problem that needs to be taking care of and and and and shouldn't be dragged so with their Russian obstacle out of the way and with the Kurdish question loading in there if that is overcome in the past the United States that a49/81
long time before that with breasts they have only sacrifice occurs so it's four damn always has been you know why did he use them and then we turn around and he just beat them to the walls and that has happened and I have no idea why many cars haven't learned the lesson that they form alliance weather's with Israel whether split U. S. letters with the button50/81
and they do things they end up serving their interests and in the end they always have been fed back to their to their abusers whether it's been less they in the Iran in nineteen sixties and nineteen fifties or less they with Turkey and that's that's the point that I have a hard time understanding and %HESITATION and I'm sure there will be people who would disagree with51/81
me and say well it is not as you you like here are things but I have spoken that certain cars and and I have been told including F. particular group meets presence in England and I met with them in London and they said %HESITATION is really is understand our dilemma because they had the same kind of situation and they have to do what they have to52/81
do to get where they are today and to me that's really frightens me and and again there are many factions there are many different groups warriors there are weight freedom fighters Cornish I I'm I'm not putting in every court in one bucket but when I talk to these people and now they see a Israel as their guardian angel in northern Iraq or in this case the53/81
United States in northern Syria I have to shake my head and say remember what happens every time you are used royally and in the and when they are finished they don't want you to have your land they don't want you to have your nation but I guess maybe is this wishful thinking that this time around it will be different that we will be given you know54/81
there will be a portion carved out from northern Iraq and from southern Turkey and noted Syria and we will have our nation there's no way Turkey is going to allow that that's not going to happen there's no way Iran is going to allow that that's I guess leave Syria but even with Syria taking place lest they be taken over Syria get better aside and the carve55/81
out a portion Chuckie would not accept the Kurdish nation in its southern or border it will never happen but I don't know why I mean it's a ridiculous discrimination is this whole setup they I I I I find it be logical but it will it they won't let it happen but but wouldn't the I SO eight yeah ice I certainly understand and and %HESITATION what's going56/81
on here but ultimately doesn't take the Kurdish population work better as a chess piece for the U. S. and Israel as as that destabilizing influence do they actually want to create a Kurdistan or is it just better to have them as that pocket of resistance that they can use in various countries like Iran and Turkey in Syria exactly I mean that that's that was the point57/81
I was trying to make and you articulate is far better sorry that's what they use them but less they after the operation is finished okay and let's say current trucks come and they do a post operation after Syria operation and the less they massacred fifteen thousand cards U. S. would not blink they won't interfere they won't do anything they lack the same situation continue so they're