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Title: Turkey Referendum: CIA-NATO Operation to Tip the Balance of Power
Published: 2017-04-06
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmpAYHPC0sI
Title: Turkey Referendum: CIA-NATO Operation to Tip the Balance of Power
Published: 2017-04-06
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmpAYHPC0sI
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welcome to this edition of news bites roundtable we have been receiving lots of requests for an update on the rising tensions between Turkey and the European Union and much more I was scandalized by what was said coming from Turkey on the Netherlands on Germany and on others today we have a panel of top experts to break down the latest news and developments while providing you with2/130
expert analysis introducing today's panel of experts we have an award winning geo political who was also a strategic risk consultant a professor and an author his most recent book is the lost hegemon whom the gods would destroy Mister William angle of William and all that calm we are also joined by the host of the Russian newspaper monitor professor Philip culture which professor garage which is a3/130
news but senior analyst and commentator with expertise on Russia in the Balkans and of course we have the founder and editor of news but Sibel Edmonds who is considered one of the top experts on Turkey Sibel we have so much to cover here where shall we begin thank you Spiro I think of the best place to begin would be what we have been seeing on daily4/130
basis on the headline and especially in the western media and that is the asking leading tension between Turkey and that you and I would say specifically that tension that we have been witnessing between Turkey and Germany Turkey and Holland so Germany and Holland started to countries that I'm going to focus on as we know recently of the Turkish foreign minister was not allowed to enter Holland5/130
for a band we are in Holland here not in Turkey and the Turkish minister has no room here to lobby fall and somebody like that miss the Pentagon who is a mere dictates and what this is that this is a this is the major diplomatic bungling that took place and need not analyze that and find out how much of all the stuff that we are witnessing6/130
are by design and of course we had %HESITATION this similar situations with Germany and that the western media running he's what we call juicy sex the headline staying Turkish president a reddit type everyone he has been calling Merkel and not see basically they're trying or they have been depicting president everyone as this angry dictator and then use them work Decatur to classify him as you have7/130
witnessed EMI have comic this year at news but constantly this dictator who is now calling that German prime minister as a as a Nazi I we will never accept this comparison between the Nazis and the no don't well from what I'm seeing and and I'm gonna start with you William is that it president everyone has a pretty predictable psychology okay and reaction he's a he's a8/130
passionate guy and then he he's not very diplomatic and and he says what he thinks that he's angry or if you make him angry if you worked pushes factor especially if you push it hard enough you know what kind of reaction you're going to end years from president and watch and to me it seems that knowing yes knowing this that's why I'm saying that this probably9/130
is by design of whether it's mark allegories Holland that day are trying to press exactly does buttons knowing exactly the kind of reaction they're going to use bringing about the president everyone and how to do it them and then they leave the rest to the western media because they set it up they presses button okay for example not allowing their bottom minister entering the country use10/130
diplomatic bungling everybody the western media weathers New York times or eat it at the coop gotten that new liberal media outlets et cetera the glance they look at this dictator he's angry is I he's pointing at his think you're not seem are now a do you agree with this assessment or what what is your pay in what we are witnessing with this tension and also the11/130
media reporting on president or she bill I'm sitting in the middle of Germany right now short lived and I think there is a game I agree with you fully on that there's a game going on between Europe and there are lots but I think there's a double game going on from the side of everyone and that is by a reacting the way he did to dis12/130
clear outrageous affront of refusing landing rights two of the Turkish government official in college and refusing to speaking permission about small town in Germany for were one of the government ministers to a Turkish community here the reaction of everyone I think is a very calculated very shrewd election ploy for the referendum most from everything I know correct me if I'm wrong but most Turkish people are13/130
not warm about this referendum they're more concerned about the economy about their jobs but the collapse of tourism since all of the activities of the Syrian the other thing discussed and so forth and earlier of the Russian the other Jack shooting down a couple years ago and the most Germans are are afraid to go to Turkey to be popped up some travel agency oracle regular slides14/130
today and they said nobody books to Turkey because they're afraid that all stable so I think on the side of the E. U. Marichal at the the Dutch government are do you mind I've seen Erewhon partly because he has committed the mortal sin coming closer to Russia Putin's such may of last year really and has become an incalculable element in the normal the the control NATO15/130
NATO environment that data Germany's a part of for all orders so I think they're two sides to this number one it's a game on the part of the European Union to do what I shared offices reddit dictator unstable mentally so for there is an aspect of herb along with all due respect that is not clear in terms of what he wants for his nation for Turkey16/130
and what is the best strategy for Turkey court court so he tends to flip flop until the cools last July there I think he flop flop if you will having what have I wake up but the shock about what was she really going up against a I think your assessment is absolutely spot on William because it is the strongest most logical card to play Turkey and17/130
that is the national wasn't part out what he has done what Hollins has done to everyone and Germany's out you know pressing the button with Morris has read by the dat nationalism that unity stance among the trucks because their skin basically is us and our president our nation against them because this is an assault on Turkey and turn identity as well so I completely agree with18/130
you and your right about %HESITATION did that the other side and that is you especially with Germany and with that I'm going to go to you Phillip and that is I just read the headlines Germany and I'm sure you have seen it William as well they just because the minute name all five countries five different places other than Turkey to replace the current Turkish based NATO19/130
base in Turkey security saying you know what you have done all these analysis geo politically speaking strategically speaking in are really need you these are here are the places the camp with that NATO base and shut down to appease the ambil beat by what is happening here a Philip already playing this hard to get the same you know he even if you work to keep us20/130
out and side with the Russian because that that was one of the nation last summer that they may shop them need to base or they may allow Russia to operate out of a database and data base in Turkey now how about this and this is the first time I'm seeing that that that you would the west putting its still blocked the state here are the other21/130
five countries the camp with the space that they may not meet you Turkey Bella our NATO needs therapy you know uncle %HESITATION looking back in my opinion NATO planners had an idea to start the war against Russia by using their that was the grand plan and and this plan did not work out because they're cool against air gone did not did not sixty and so I22/130
am gone I realized at that point that he he had become a tool and Turkey if the country was supposed to be destroyed and end the war against Russia in order for some circles in western Europe and United things to benefit and and though I'm in my opinion at the last minute to realize that and I also think that to some extent the Russian intelligence service23/130
to help him do not to out loud voice being overthrown in July but beyond that what we are seeing in Europe is the collapse of a grand geopolitical vision although all of the European Union and I compared the situation in Europe today geo politically to the situation in Europe at the end of the nineteen eighties when another big geopolitical project the Soviet Union collapsed so what24/130
what we are leaving where in Europe and this one is different countries trying to position themselves to what is going to come to what is going to happen in the future and we don't know what's going to happen the feud just everybody's trying to get a better deal for their own country we have very Myanmar just thought yeah yellow jump the strong state and and it25/130
started in the Russia and now by the host of the dirt even though these two states are very different and that that did this course stop up Dirk if president erdo I need very different from the discourse don't dump the Russian president Putin and if you talk about the thank logical profile bared the line you know being being somebody who is in the Provo where put26/130
it is just the opposite it's very difficult to provoke him and he is playing a very careful ensure game and in my opinion the what what I'm seeing is the emergence of a new tradition I knew political tradition in Europe that before he lacks some they're probably there's got to putting god to talk to put in and within the last month the month of March I27/130
seen or differently there's got to put in to talk to put them before their election okay thought Serbia big case of Armenia the case goes out of step yeah and also the case of it the French presidential candidates who are on my team let then who was in Moscow last week so what what we are seeing is the emergence of a very important figure in Eurasia28/130
the bigger blood them and put them LL go on in my opinion would not have been able to do to go so much against Europe unless he had at least some protection and guarantee on the other side however we know that there are many many problems and you should make them Turkey at at and the rest stop but what I'm seeing is the emergence of a29/130
away Eurasian that kind of a Eurasian political and economic project that may actually may actually counter what the European Union has been trying to go for so long and then even if the thumb gods is in the European Union at a point in the future up trying to join this broad day but at this point of time you feel better young clear what's going to happen30/130
even though I think that the referendum in Turkey if if it's not going to be successful for air go on I think him winning the referendum I think this is a good timing for us to go back to %HESITATION what William also mention flip flop verses left left now this is what we have been seeing that the tension as you said you know you days we31/130
are seeing Turkey getting closer to Russia and me having any cover does that news but %HESITATION previously and then suddenly he sees some switch and a little bit milder meanwhile pension because being wet you ask and Turkey then it goes back then it goes toward in fact as we are recording this segment here point yes roundtable this is Thursday March thirtieth dealers than right now is32/130
in Turkey and he is right now as big record is he's meeting with the Turkish president at everyone and their foreign minister etcetera so I don't know what you two are expecting and what kind of outcomes if any are expecting from this for me didn't development on track to U. S. Turkey Russia a dynamics has been the latest Kurdistan Kurdish factor and I want it I33/130
wouldn't think of both your analysis on this because of it was surprising or at least Turkey has been acting surprised to see Russia us stepping in and actually protecting providing some support to certain Kurdish factions in Syria which as we know that is one of the very very touchy sensitive spot with Turkey it's like this is what happened with Iraq as well they do not want34/130
to see any autonomous region whether it is within Iraq whether this within Syria that is called Curtis that in fact they don't want to hear toward Kurdistan so knowing that well US and Israel they have been supporting their various Kurdish factions in northern Iraq same thing with northern us Syria and now Russia getting in there and it's going to a certain the week its weight supporting35/130
the Kurdish faction what are we going to expect under these new circumstances that that that Kurdish our circumstance circumstances up with Chuck he Russia versus Turkey U. S. relations and I start with you that let well you know it's very difficult to say because when they are gone was in Moscow this was on Mars band he talked about five dairies groups that data that Turkey it36/130
was fighting against I own one of them was that I is the other or the other was on move in here of course with Russia is the perfect convergence but then he mentioned three albums he mentions the Democratic Union party which is the Kurdish party he mentioned the people's protection you need the will YPG that car distraction and you also mentioned the goal affect a moment37/130
so it's a is circumvent our arrest and Turkey can cooperate again as I see them on those Sir but big the good news site it's much more complicated and is this goes back to the end the idea although an independent Kurdish state than all that connected to the issues in Iraq and Iran and so anything you think you are our geopolitical mine field and I of38/130
course could affect the rest of Turkish relations because according to what I was able to find out from the rest and media is that the lake the %HESITATION around the negotiations in math that nine because back then was not the best will because Abby precisely because of the Kurdish factory now that was the Turkey supported yeah on the position did not come to that meeting because39/130
of some issues dealing with them with their current that Derek this theory I mean backed up it was amazing to me that when they when they ate Turkey soldier was killed by a allegedly back currently sniper I doubt that the deck is media three of foreign affairs cloak on good that the acting the rest on the back of the in Turkey and and call him up40/130
to go to the doctor himself so it appears the debate they're clear that that the rest of those support in the U. like you did that the Kurdish faction however I think I think this has to go beyond that Aidid will have to wake the fuck I'm a bit of a comprehensive perhaps even the Yalta pipe agreement East Syria where most live is glad to be41/130
completely happy and word that that the great powers will eventually make a make a law for everybody and I think Turkey is now try and go on is now trying to see who or who he will get a better deal from up by I think that that because of the situation you know unite that they that Donald Trump being extremely weakened by the opposition within unite42/130
that they've now put in has taken the role of the main mediate during your Eurasia and I thing ever gone he's hoping that through a personal relationship with put them he is going to be able to get a better deal I think it comes down to that at this point of time in the we cannot speak about some kind of democratic people of beef this up43/130
we are talking about their relationship up between the interest we are back in the stock on the monarchical period I guess of history where they're at and that go on during the meeting during the press conference and gone twice our goal putting his friend is that my friend lied to me put in where put in did not reciprocate what then did not say my friend %HESITATION44/130
diet but I need to have gone yeah good if it if it of course I mean they are gone easy in the weaker weaker position that at this point don't die but of course the Kurdish issue is if something that that for him is very difficult to talk to make any compromise at this point of time before the referendum which is not to say that that45/130
is not going to happen after the referendum nothing has to happen but this ask them Volvos so that the Kurdish faction in Iraq and and those so that the of course the Iranian intervention and by the way Iranian president Hassan Rouhani was in Moscow this week he was there on Monday and Tuesday and he also met with Putin and SRS I've been so you put that46/130
there actually is that is that some kind of up and he's immediate there you know everybody talked to him and then you don't while other people and we have to mention the Israeli prime minister Netanyahu and I think that that then yeah who had the very good relations with put in they met that the three times in the last six months anything just being that that47/130
drive after talking to Netanyahu put the adults to and on and on I've seen this in terms of their phone conversations and I also see in this in terms of their meeting because that then yeah who was in Moscow one day before and on interesting William well I think from the standpoint of Russia they've been clear from the beginning some speedy September thirtieth decision to intervene48/130
on behalf of the by Charlotte sub government's request the legitimate government of of Syria as Russia Bob Roman others continuously stressed that the do not want a balkanized Syria they want an integral intact Syria and where they need to the soft on the air go on military push into Syria into the Kurdish areas well of Syria that would set a precedent for the carving up the49/130
the Brookings Institution clamp around corporation no I or anyone of my hundred think tanks in Washington but fiddling around with the carving up of Syria for decades and I think the Russians are very clear that they do not if at all possible want to open that door and that's what was made clear from Pune to everyone there's also the all sorts of negotiations on the military50/130
the US four hundred at the personal when defense batteries that are the most sophisticated of the world are not of the Chinese by them that other countries and that the US cannot wouldn't Congress so everyone has expressed interest in purchasing something the of the S. four hundred didn't system from Russia %HESITATION there's the Turkish streaming gas pipeline going through Turkey until the order of Greece new51/130
European Union their number considerations that didn't Medicare along think twice about cavalierly other Truckin any requested the Russian president Putin to the site so it's so extremely complex I it's not a three dimensional game of chess it's probably at this point a five dimensional game of chess that Clinton era want the other by Charlotte sought the Iranians that the U. S. are playing right now and52/130
the the problem is that trump presidency is there I don't call it a presidency it's a trump project Donald Trump is a slaver isn't there's nothing up stairs he's just an actor who's given some lines to read but he has turned over according to reports coming out of Washington you see turned over the military decisions to the generals to decide what they do in Syria and53/130
they're bringing some the ground serious something Obama repeatedly block for whatever reasons does not particularly good reasons about was catastrophic president in terms of American national interests but I did the trunk project and the backers of trump that deep state and there is a big state and our states make no bones about it the deep state didn't roll up and die when Donald Trump was selected54/130
because he stepped the I'm in another you know clean up the swamp drain the swamp make America great again and so forth there's so many American friends of mine who television people who I believe the rhetoric it's just garbage look at what the people appointed by proper doing wallstreet Goldman Sachs is running the finances of the trumpet ministration elect certainly the soccer player someone and four55/130
generals are are in key positions homeland security national security adviser the defense secretary so forth and it's unprecedented the American tradition is always a civilian defense secretary to counteract the military who are trained to learn to make war that's their bent so now the warriors certain in charge on the military side that that in return trump says go in there and kill isis talk about a56/130
recipe for expanding terrorism through the world that's it that's what we did David Petraeus and in Iraq you know it worked beautifully created terror all over the place so the geometry of the Syrian situation I don't see any near term resolution of it that's going to be satisfactory to the people of Syria I'm I think sort of be on the pessimistic side but I think not57/130
Russia not the Iran not Hezbollah not Syria are going to be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again and I don't think the U. S. is gonna succeed and that's map chat you know they there's another aspect of this and the evidence that an oil company call Jeannie energy in a place I used to live in New Jersey I studied there Jeannie energy of the