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Title: The Telling Travel Log of NATO Chief Stoltenberg: Is NATO Getting Desperate for a Conflict?
Published: 2016-07-06
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5PF8eLYwSY
Title: The Telling Travel Log of NATO Chief Stoltenberg: Is NATO Getting Desperate for a Conflict?
Published: 2016-07-06
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5PF8eLYwSY
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hello everyone I'm Spiro joined here today with two very special guests from the news but team Sibel Edmonds the editor and founder of news but and boiling frogs post as well as Philip go watch a bitch was a geopolitical author university professor in the chairman for the movement for neutrality of Montenegro he has a PhD and a BA in political science here in the U. S.2/82
and has visited as a professor at St Petersburg state university in Russia for two years today were to be talking about an exclusive article that he wrote for news but blowing frogs post the travels of a NATO chief gens stolen Berg in this article Philip Kerr vice vich talks about how we travel to places that are important to us and through analyzing our travels you can3/82
start to see a pattern and you can see what is important %HESITATION to that person who is traveling you know this can be applied to anyone of us so we are here today to talk a little bit about this article this is the first time that this has been covered here this is an exclusive article here Philip would lead you down this path here to investigate4/82
the travels of this NATO chief stolen Berg I thought it was gonna be is if the US government yet Jan belt may go if we see where that she you don't need to cheat is traveling are and not only that we discovered the priorities don't need no but perhaps it would also discover some of these future moves and in fact what I discovered is that NATO5/82
that is expansionist agenda it is it is going on you know even though the reality on the ground is changing this push for expansion is going on which can be seen and is reflected in the travel assault made up sheet yeah Balkan bart else I this is a fantastic analysis and so revealing and I was reading it the first time and a couple of things jump6/82
at me and and then the second time going through it of several things jumped at me even more so because you have so many of explosive nuggets actually burn it in there dad dad %HESITATION I just wanted us to have this %HESITATION discussion session an interview session and post some of these questions because I know all you are trying to make the article the analysis brief7/82
enough and and as some of the pointers in there %HESITATION you want to expand upon in your future articles so I don't want to take away from your coming articles but one of the first thing that caught my attention and the reason for it being we have been screaming about the real alternative media versus the mainstream media and what we refer to as these pseudo alternative8/82
media and in this article as part of the pattern and the travels that %HESITATION Stoltenberg has in %HESITATION going through and there are tons of does is this very interesting visit traveled to %HESITATION a visit to a politico %HESITATION that's the political publication they have there print version of their news but they're mainly online and they stab wish themselves political in two thousand seven a as9/82
an alternative to mainstream media interestingly and though basically a bunch of people who were basically previously announced piece of the US government especially the CIA together with Walter Pincus they laughed politico I mean they left Washington post and a few people from a Wall Street journal and they established this so called alternative %HESITATION news outlet with the same group of people the same establishment media that10/82
that you are familiar with in terms of names and experience and background and the and of course there was nothing alternative there has been nothing alternative about this publication and not only that they are pretty small their print publication had the print is not more than twenty thousand I think is somewhere around seventeen eighteen thousand copies that they sell and their beer she propped viewership per11/82
month is around that three to six million %HESITATION hits per month yet they established an office in in Brussels and a long behold you have Jan's a Stoltenberg going to their opening ceremony and being a major presence there and knowing who these people are these %HESITATION this horrifying people that we have been attacking as mainstream media war now posing as alternate to the mainstream media I12/82
wanted you to a little bit expand upon of this this visit by Stoltenberg to our politicos not London office which is usual or Hong Kong office which is the usual not the Paris office again to be expected but politico's first international office being in Brussels Belgium yeah female back in if that's very very interesting it's not about being a I expected though and I've got to13/82
do with dirt and employ people popped up %HESITATION bullet going my opinion is that you think Kompong then in that in that in the new strategy all made now in Europe are %HESITATION pushing for NATO expansion in other words in Europe for a long time we have had the usual suspects of the U. S. public diplomacy your propaganda that's it their radio free Europe and they're14/82
going to America but obviously %HESITATION that the powers that should not be no do you think this will not do that that and they wanted to augment their propaganda potential by cutting out another media I and it's just going to pick when in fact we think we've connected to another organization called the German Marshall fund don't unite that bait which for many years have been the15/82
one of the key thing bangs promoting they've going Europe and beyond and if you look at the good lord all the German Marshall fund of unite that date you'll see that John and Mary good good cheer added during chief avoid because there in other words we have a a a tight connection between polyptych organizational connection with impolitic law and the German Marshall fund that unite that16/82
they would just deported by the German government and led by many corporate law it is that Germany is extremely important for Nate though if you look at the my and now if you'll need that yeah thought number be that the jury might need them most in this time period adept I look at that and he also are not only did he meet with the leadership of17/82
Germany but he also gave speeches to the media the boycott Bartlett in Germany both the right and the left with social Democrat in other words the support of the German political elite corps mate is crucial I and and and and therefore we keep German Marshall fund of United also strongly and financially subordinate go soft power I am Victoria Nuland I want no doubt you back if18/82
they don't the U. S. rash on Bali go to me guide the U. S. national only the path that Greek agreed that you live in them back then up to one million dollars more in the in the doors of soft power in Europe and I people you cook with the part of that all that's very interesting now for our audience %HESITATION I know that our regular19/82
followers subscribers that boiling frog suppose now slash news but they know where we stand I have written about Washington post and their CIA connection and also I have reports of political in the past but if you have new viewers year please take a note of this and next time you read any kind of coverage put forth by politico %HESITATION remembered that who DO working for and20/82
how important they are for the same deep state that establishment that we are trying to counter and the for ourselves from how about you of Philip have you by looking at their coverage or anything NATO within political coverage have you noticed any kind of our Pacific pattern that has jumped at you the kind of spin that kind of Telz they put in their coverage oh yeah21/82
definitely you know they are there cheerleading for neat though they're talking about need that the champion of democracy and human rights weight goes up you need yeah economic prosperity be and I'll be the one that sounds really good but in their in reality the article itself great it it it it broke I gathered that college and in may of you then technology am acad married that22/82
that perhaps the US middle class you will go or and this is why the hell we need to tell our viewers may they need to be careful enough or if the court is youth that that bell and the element of the debate well thank you for making this point both in your article but also emphasizing it here and I know a lot of people they are23/82
familiar they know that Washington post New York times you know all those garbage us that wish mint tentacles are the establishment tentacles but when it comes to these there are posing as alternative please include politico on your list if you're subscribing just unsubscribe from their their their website their publication and and put it on your block it off well this is a pretty large bucket off24/82
the pseudo alternatives posing as %HESITATION alternatives out there all my second question before I pass this thing to us Biro thank you for hosting it and thank you for having me on Spiro or this one because this is this is %HESITATION extremely important this article this I'm so glad that you got to publish it before you leave the country for your trip %HESITATION Philip is a25/82
game you are likely a mention a year in this article up Pugin's visit to Greece and and what took place in there impute ten and that we %HESITATION aqueducts the church and and the significance of that and I know that this is something that you are going to follow up on and you have plenty to say because as of all of us will be following this26/82
no it's much more than some symbolic thing that took place is far more than some sort of a ceremonial event that took place so I know your article is coming but would you tell us a little bit about why diss so significance Pugin's visit a and and and and what took place in Greece but the aqueducts the church this is a very very important %HESITATION this27/82
is a a big gives you and I'll be on golf ball it I'll be writing about the future what's happening here is that %HESITATION Putin is trying to arm yet support for his ball if the and he needs to find something and idea that goes beyond the rash on nationally our and he pounded the idea end up power over the orthodox church now we have to28/82
look at the religious his dirty and understand that the Bob a thousand years ago the Christian church unite increased insurance in Europe split into two into the eastern church and the western church the weapon Jared began in the Catholic Church with which made the wrong way into many Protestant churches as well so there are many baby lake there within the Catholic Church I'll be orthodox church29/82
became a game out of the eastern Christian church and the old orthodox churches but if you magnet and the and the Catholic Church in other words what's happening in Eastern Europe that is that different countries have different orthodox church so you don't know what or who don't sure there are fourteen of them and no one put in is trying to do and and this point of30/82
time is no combine and connect all the orthodox churches into one I was under the control of the Russian Orthodox charge and then and then you lose that the orthodox the and they and they need no man all don't don't ration brand new in that in that region what we have to remember when you look at the the population within countries like Serbia grief about your31/82
area our and Russia is that that go beyond look towards get a lot of respect in fact if you look at the public opinion polls the orthodox church is the most trap it institution in this country so if if if somebody would go out with the one that cheap on your doctors bent on being your point equate people will listen and this is what what what32/82
did is counting on and this is why if both are important and that when he was angry that he not only met with the Greek leadership degree government but he also went to read them the aqueduct monastic community unarmed eight dot net was bonded many hundred years ago and that includes the rest on order look pretty you know in other words the orthodox church well become33/82
a a very important well I've been very port with support for their national Boise going in the Balkans and the thing that really is the what may believe in the end of the other mining on they'd because let's remember agreed and Bulgaria are all those countries and yet at the same time they're members of NATO however the elite are beholden the political elite them did god34/82
used are beholden to make a Buck not the people the majority of the people are against me and so with that with the help all all the orthodox church that be on the monthly into both believe in your position door naked leg to grow indeed got and I expect that may go begin feeling they're very very soon and that I think that that may talk yeah35/82
eventually losing out in in in the Balkans because of their not because of the orthodox religious connection that that that book in hand have made you then need you then up for you or you don't boarding point to go that's very interesting who another related question to this topic now that you brought it up %HESITATION signifies Turkey's Roland this because Turkey is outside orthodoxy church is36/82
the only Moslem %HESITATION country nation Azerbaijan is in line it's gonna become a NATO member but Turkey is and considering that the division of the divide and the and the animosity between Turkey the long held and grease and the historical animosity between Turkey and Russia and the current of raft and that conflict between Russia and Turkey Turkey being the NATO member I wonder how much dad37/82
comes into play and is signified by Pugin's visit to grease and how would actually %HESITATION how would it ruffled the feathers with but now what's going on with Turkey because despite some of the severe ties they still have a pretty %HESITATION large %HESITATION commerce ties a Russia and Turkey %HESITATION death has been reduced tremendously in the past couple of years but still the economic ties to38/82
a certain extent is there and and how does that come into play of beat Turkey and and and the chip and the situation with Turkey out what took place with Pugin's visit to Greece these issues are very complicated and in fact some of these issues mainly so the warm part three %HESITATION if we look at history will with the many thanks Gary go on the market39/82
ibid when Russia the Russian empire and the Turkish or Ottoman and many issues there have any man on results our grief and you have said to the north of those countries sorted it just me speaking it's closer to Russia than %HESITATION addendum to thirty and up well if you look at it there if it means that there is a very good story you'll see that back40/82
in the therapy if they were they ate big violent conflict over the island of Cyprus it should be if they had them remained on the result are going they don't even though I agree that there could have been members donate though I think it is too NATO has not been able to resolve the bass this is the why talking about Nate but I'm kind of blew41/82
up to Europe yeah you need nations all all that it just been Dan is that is that in the growth of the military industrial complex they are not interested in genuine reconciliation between people who have been in carpet for a long time think about it really think that if you had been members of the same organization or more than the year and yeah yeah yeah let42/82
them wrinkled lower this means that if you're gonna need they should've gone by them have failed they have failed I am at this point at this point of time on it if Jason Nick grimly complicated when no that that the relation of big band %HESITATION Turkey and the rest I am indeed any are a bit because of the downing of their national military plan by thank43/82
you our our and and and and so we we don't that economic thing so we had many many many top where we also have the control of the of the Turkish military in terms of the rash on navy ships going further Bosporus bend the Dow down nearly and we have the issue all of it gumball gone thank you know what I'm going I mean you got44/82
it it like you do you should I mean we are talking about that in their box and I'm afraid that that people I and and that in that in the west may actually try to provoke did go in fact I'm very prickly me big I'm in it it did go me it will always going to be up to the lake they that good coolness don't put45/82
in and then go down to prevent the copy guy thing and go god has shown that he had not been in not being very cool and then he is apt to act irrationality and unexpectedly and and and and this may get him and go in and go and go and took in deep trouble because there yeah after all even though it had the very strong military46/82
it cannot be a match to Russia but it would it would definitely lead to many many people don't think you'll be also have to look at the turkeys at the bell you know quite a lot about it that they're dissecting it didn't that's always yeah I and the former Soviet Republic again right now I don't think the grind yeah the cry me about our I thought47/82
we had so many hot spots in this in this region and any you may think it may be just another little thing or or or all hell to break loose in your article here you were talking about that the first trip of Stoltenberg's %HESITATION that's when he gained his position there as the chief NATO his first trip that he took was just five days later it48/82
was to Poland %HESITATION in Poland just recently had a massive military drill and where was the largest presence of over thirty thousand troops since the Cold War right right there on Russia's doorstep like as you said the whole area is in turmoil %HESITATION but in your opinion where would that the conflict of most likely happen if there was to be one or is this all just49/82
you know all the military posturing on both sides the Russian and the NATO alike I is this just a you know business as usual and saber rattling well here we are talking about the long term geo strategic agenda that's more than one hundred years old if you read the words don't be one of the first American geopolitical thinkers are may not make mayhem you'll need that50/82
you thought that the emerging unite that make up the bottom of the global bar with ham three began enemies Germany and Russia and China and he right here I commanded you recommended are unite that they think in action against the gun we know that action had been taken against Germany twice while gore won was against Germany and we're going to win the game Germany so Germany51/82
had begun ma or pretty much acted by then they go to the park though that we have got many don now rash I that kind of the deck and got you on this on did you geopolitical play and the threat that you use here in in the thought that you mean that comment I in other words yeah that the the strategy you know if you don't52/82
control that don't the the marginal area around Russia in other words if you look at that your your graphic with this not Poland you'll see that it can control don't know or and if you think that your graphic what is not darkie honesty that it can go go go thou so would you you have from the European that is that that's the only pressure on Russia53/82
and now we Ukraine Ukrainian government baked in the bay yeah cooperating very closely with NATO you have further pressure on Russia do me it is very revealing that that the name of the land that land that mac mac have talked about hundred years ago with gold anaconda and that the name of need to if this guy you pull on it also called anaconda and is you54/82
know I'm not going to eat that night was me that that that you know these pray the way bye bye circling it by squeezing it by squeezing it by making it making got me angry well you're not the weight you or it could be in the national air what do you want to adopt a rush job corps there been shot I need be are beginning to55/82
ma because for the drive to get the six speed or the I'm not gone down the six speed you have to have the Chinese on your side and the thing that you will get in there and make them and I called plays during the Cold War in fact there have been like the logo on the market the between the Soviet Union and China even though they56/82
were both communist country and this was a bit of that in in it that the think that Albany thank you think you're up for the boys in the band now China may be playing a different game now trying I may actually be are beyond on their ass and died and and the eventually what what what what make it impossible to put pressure on the rack up57/82
from the other side from the E. and if you will would allow Russia to focus on the way the what we have to do at this point the band followed closely very nascent McMahon %HESITATION up what do you think she'd rather tried the Chinese bread I pull on pull on his goal would be to look at boys he's gonna eat they have have the local from