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Title: The Lexicon of Casino Gambling & Drone Kills: How Vegas Drone Pilots Score a Jackpot
Published: 2016-11-07
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_FV-V29vG0
Title: The Lexicon of Casino Gambling & Drone Kills: How Vegas Drone Pilots Score a Jackpot
Published: 2016-11-07
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_FV-V29vG0
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everyone I'm Spiro welcome to this week's episode of news bites roundtable as everyone is well aware America has been in a perpetual state of war for sometime now over the years we have witnessed the atrocities of war broadcast on our televisions and we've also experienced those weapons of war coming home everything from MRAPs to drones now this week we will showcase a new spot exclusive article2/153
from Eric Moshi titled drone casino my missus the wheel of misfortune now this article draws very interesting parallels between the gambling capital of the world and what has become the main operating hub for drones operated by the U. S. Air Force in Las Vegas at this time I'd like to bring in our guests our panel today we are joined by Eric Moshi eight news but analyst3/153
and writer and professor Joseph pull the essay who is the research director of the department of media music communication and cultural studies at out Magarey university in Sydney Australia and of course I'm also joined by the one and only Sibel Edmonds hello everyone how are you doing well I am able the belt can you tell me what you thought about %HESITATION Eric's latest piece of his4/153
drone exposes that he's been writing for news by I absolutely I agree five to ten articles each jail I'm talking about really reading it day and usually I engage in %HESITATION speed reading because of even though there are many brilliant articles out there on really important topics you get to this point especially with their current topics the current political topic subjects out there are a lot5/153
of things come across as keen and that you see everywhere you know you may go to New York times all pen and you just read the same thing less they Mosel or or something on Zico virus but %HESITATION and I had to read several besides Eric's great work a of books and articles on this whole of artificial intelligence and also on the drones but this particular6/153
article particularly of got my attention because I just got up it stopped me in my track and medicine well this just never occurred to me of did did the semiotic relations it's being there between the gambling industry especially the coolest seat cheesy a risque city of Las Vegas and the fact that the drone bases a our position there and more bases are moving day and then7/153
you start looking at the concepts that that the characteristics of all this gambling city and and what they do and and and each yes a form of gambling no matter what they want to troll about accuracy at cetera eat of it it was one of those angles that you don't see and you don't hear about and though you know I had this great professor for literature8/153
and when he was talking about Emily Dickinson you know we had this chair in the class he took this chair he turned it upside down as he said when you're looking at at as her point three you want to look at it not only like the chair to way you look at it you want to look at it from the site you wanna look at it9/153
from the bottom turn it upside down and look at it to really get the picture to really try to get the meaning well the same thing but this approach with that drug use is looking at this whole %HESITATION phenomena a frightening phenomena from and very fresh a interesting angle and and I know Eric did a fantastic job narrating get writing get and researching get me the10/153
distinguished guests though who has them immense level of water in this and and so all my antenna was who would not all of them were up and kind of journey and I keep thinking about it for two three days a I I majored one of my majors or criminal psychology so I was relating to that field as well so instead of going gin yanking and talking11/153
here I I want to of green gin Eric and then a professor who yesterday and and and get into this topic more in depth especially since Eric has been a writing the series there on on on on the drone as as the topic from so many different perspectives maybe had the stock with the film industry what we are watching on TV this angle that Las Vegas12/153
so he is the man here who has been presenting it prison presenting all of us these different pieces of like pieces of puzzle related to drones and this am interesting very interesting pictures %HESITATION emerging and I just love the fact that he he picked this matter science I don't you know a lot of people the writer article at one time deal to time deal then they13/153
move to another topic are Eric you've been pounding on this topic and and now you brought this aliment so let's start with you and them from you we can move to a professor yesterday yes and it doesn't well first of all the credit goes to professor proved Nancy for his very original idea I'd I thought I did a decent job of presenting it to the public14/153
in a way it is accessible so well we don't see read in its entirety it's actually onstage publishing but I'm able to get it for free since I I go to school at George Mason University in Fairfax Virginia it's a it was an article those very eye opening because I'm going to Las Vegas and on on November eleventh my best friends honeymoon so I'll be there15/153
hopefully I won't be thinking about drones hopefully they won't be buzzing around my head like like to any birds on their but it is not fully is definitely going to acknowledge the realities of your surroundings and everywhere you go every state our military bases but it's a little bit of a different game literally a different game when you have drone bases because very they're very traumatizing16/153
%HESITATION place of employment for a lot of people and this is becoming a little bit of a crisis in the military when it comes to military affairs because they're searching for more drone pilots to fill a book to fill the are to fill seats and of course when the when you fill the seats than there are more people in the Middle East to fill the coffers17/153
%HESITATION consequently it's just it was just a very interesting article first of all I just want to ask our professor Paul Gacy about how he first got the idea for writing about the lexicon of casino gambling and how it interfered was there was their word or phrase in Amelie caught your eye and you and you set yourself while I need to inquire further yes float on18/153
us you can say from the actual article up I did go there and took a number of photographs that I had a very gay colleague at the university of Arizona professor Susan Straka who knew that I was working on drones in Dallas and she said I must take you out there and we just spent a couple of guys they're not it's like the photographs what struck19/153
me immediately walls and you can say this in the actual letters that are reproduced in the original article was the striking juxtaposition of civil society with Bambi like it isn't ground gardens signs saying the way children really staggering down the military industrial complex and it's mostly for and that is Nellis airforce base I'm not really provoked make you think what is the relation between these two20/153
sites I mean the gambling casino capital of the world there's a sense of the civil from tee with front garden suburban vaults and a festive atmosphere because of the casinos and yet I know this to be one of the epicenters of America's secret wool and a cooler secret will because you up acknowledging your articles why really the drunk who also running under the right out including21/153
when the US kills its own citizens like Anwar al Awlaki anti Sandra example Anne's friend so really that was the provocative moment when I got there materially and slowly stopped juxtapositions between civil society and the lethal killing machinery of drugs sitting next to each other do you get a very a very sorrow job was actually cool little bit intimidating because when when you're when you're a22/153
student at a university and your reading work by professors you can't really put yourself on a level playing field when it comes to what what it takes to actually write these pieces you you probably read at least fifty plus books in order to give yourself the background information on each element of the of the of the works it was inspiring to me to read it to23/153
know that one day in a row I reached that level of I'm just back dissecting theories and applying them to present combat drones for example yes well you do the excellent job been really liking of my work accessible to a larger public and you didn't compromise adult recite focused and accurate really in its mapping it the key components I Siebel said you really working on my24/153
site matter and put all the pieces together and I actually think that that's the most important thing we can do is critical analysts or media journalists and that is to join the dots really and say that things aren't working oscillation there actually hidden infrastructures and relations that we need to identify nine and explodes because then the complicity Savalas become much more complicated and interesting because they've25/153
hidden in a sense I guess the whistle blowers seem go it do exactly that I shot those hidden aspects which other otherwise would not comes alliance I know absolutely and completely agree with what that and I want to bring into it is the role of media because we also have been observing that that did did the way the media has been reporting on this lessee if26/153
you were to compare that to what was happening in their late sixties and early seventies with Vietnam War %HESITATION out I'm not saying the media was great back then but relatively speaking the media played its role in in presenting to the public some of the horrors horrors of what you were causing in Vietnam and I know other Dan draft because we had the draft back then27/153
so we have more resistance does a lot of pictures they published and a lot of articles went a long way of getting the public saying we don't want this war and an increasing the level of activism within the antiwar movements but what we have been seeing especially since nine eleven with all these wars Iraq Afghanistan Yemen they stopped placing any of these photographs showing the horrors28/153
of what we are doing over to you know I I grew up in several countries I grew up in Turkey and Azerbaijan also in Iran my father was a surgeon he was a doctor and between the age nine and eleven twelve he would take take me with him to hospital where he was a surgeon and they would bring these war victims you know they would bring29/153
these little babies who had got beaten basically mouth it from the from the bombs and and ninety percent dad and and their skins and everything features their nose or mouth and so they had actually they have to drill holes real holes and then put this is the little plastic tube to give them air and you're looking at nine months old babies you're looking at that you30/153
know two year old child you're looking at the nine year old grandmother and to us underground experiencing that was war now that and compare it what we are seeing in the United States thus the public opinion from the concept of drawn to what it actually does there is complete disconnect with deep reality and and and the normalization because this is some kind of an abstract yeah31/153
that's good you're not losing too many people the drones are accurate there computerized and they are heeding the enemies they're not showing any of these casualties there that's one apart babies Dee Dee Dee are so what we have therefore we have an uninformed public and and be sometimes called apathy or single where's the reaction why aren't we hearing from the people won't do this is one32/153
of the reasons okay and and that now because what you brought up here with these soldiers and and the terminology used that that are actually parallel the same terminology as in gambling and %HESITATION de humanization up what they are doing beaches absolutely is strategically implemented because you basically is slamming it does bug on a windshield basically this is not human you're looking at basically for the33/153
draw pilots you're looking at bugs okay yeah and and it's fun it's like a game the other panelists like those computer games that we see kids constantly playing bank you're killing your taking out so there is no sense so you're looking at innocent lives we are looking at human beings you're looking get babies not affect and and and dad is absolutely put in place by design34/153
or from the military industrial complex the military system here and and you know when he in some way some of these pilots I consider them victims as well yeah being experimented upon okay the type of music they play in the background when they are engaged in actually taking away human lives all of those are put in place by design but yet you mentioned whistleblowing professor we35/153
have had a group of pilots drone pilots who came out they day blew the whistle they said how immoral how horrifying this whole process this whole drone operation was and then you're looking at less they hundreds thousands and thousands of them why do we see such small group why beat why you're looking get ten or fifteen or twenty pilots who basically say you are out we36/153
are not going to engage in this and then you have ninety nine point four percent continuing and and not showing any kind of reaction in your opinion what is causing that difference well I think that's a complex answer but I also think that there are a number of factors that work there one is the wine which I think drunk hills and why which they conducted on37/153
the socks from which they conducted create first of all you cooked medium which cry creates a distancing effect precisely because so many of these young try not reticent pilots being trying to actually through video games and in a sense but outside the article the up PlayStation mentality gets transposed to the lethal military killing process so you've got a sense that you're not really killing human beings38/153
and that's amplified through the abstracting dehumanizing language as you called it by which time nine that targets so as he said a successful kill is called a box that why would you feel anguish control not I did the killing as you cited in six of the being squashed on windows screen so there is a complete objectification an instrument laws ocean of human life and a reduction39/153
it's something that we would consider it absolutely worthless secondly they targets that got abstracting language by cool people who run as they being a court under the cross hairs of the drones questions %HESITATION what does that mean I dismounts so these are human flesh and blood Baines their abstracted terms so you gotta let the level of language really begins to T. materialize human targets and the40/153
question but I'm glad but capacities secondly you've got other Lytle lists the arm jackpot casino language to kill someone successfully is to really to score jackpot that's what I called and simultaneously you've got now some of the whistle blows telling us that arm because doing the drone footage is incredibly boring because they know that we Alison that always when nothing much happens I know you've got41/153
whistleblower sign that they're actually transposing chess battleship guides and bingo almost sign media infrastructure that creates the arm lethal pills other actually killing their time playing bingo chess battleship so you've got this absolute in retaliation this and meshing of literal BDO gangs with lethal video gangs and so they ripped that there's a continuum there that doesn't cause a stir startling disconnect about what we're doing lying42/153
on the one hand and then applying worst I call it gambling with people's lives and a lot of those drone operated sexually society we have gambling with people's lives and often on the front line between letting someone live them let letting someone die so this sense of absolute sovereignty over someone's live and because of the technology you get a sense of distance remoteness and also exclude43/153
bonded to tense I don't miss since because you can see every aspect of their lives you can see trouble gatherings weddings funerals all of that he's been drug targets all over the place created hundreds of civilian ground kills so you can say they're complex factors he in terms of the actual media across all of his between medias between our guiding devices between casino gambling the language44/153
that the pilots used and the technologies that the pilots were actually using and the distancing remoting affects it does technologies higher and in a sense that begins to explain why so many lock themselves in and actually talk quite exclusively about compartmentalized and just use the word that I use that compartmentalize the dry and kills as something separate from their lives and really outside Rome they moral45/153
Basie's because what happens when you can cook compartmentalize your your moral core is that you can actually execute someone extra judicially as struggles to because everyone is guilty by association there's no legal procedure to up demand that you prove your innocence or guilt everyone is already dead in a sense once they're out of the crosshairs and that's the end of the story so I think there46/153
are a number of factors bowling impacting on how and why well dried up writers really continued Clyde gangsters I have a question for you Eric because of I think that this is that this is a major issue question that that nobody has really answered really and for me it started right from the beginning and that is the reports of off the oath that kills okay then47/153
the comments they be killed forty five al Qaeda today be killed twenty ISIS today and I think first of all how do you identify who you have to know how do you identify before you kill these individuals due date like kill and then go and search their body and mind ISIS ID card and there's an ISIS driver's license or do they walk around like me then48/153
isis I hit you know a hit man under head because you're looking at fourteen years old there are counted as an ISIS yet top target so when it comes to target identification okay bold before up before they kill us and attack and also after a walk us through what you have come across because you know as far as they're concerned in the media's reporting they get49/153
the report from the U. S. they yesterday the operation you know in Mosul or in Yanmen resulted in fourteen isis being killed fourteen isis who identified them as I systems to hit I do identify them and confirm their identity as ISIS members afterwards because according to that even a fetus Camby ISIS because we have seen so many pregnant woman kill and wordy target that's because they're50/153
carrying ISIS fetus I mean I'm not trying to be cute here what I'm trying to bring up here for people opening up New York times you know Reuters and then looking at us think we are both yesterday be killed forty al Qaeda or thirty five ISIS how do we identify these individuals because in the past the wars were between militaries of nations we no longer recognize51/153
any nation's sovereignty we are not actually war with any military we have created these abstract names ice's out Qaeda out new strata and beer killing women men and children is not a military base is not the men it's not the government yeah ceiling ordinary people and the city have killed isis al Qaeda albums throughout or whatever you want to go ahead and change because four years52/153
from now they gonna come up with a different brand name also tell us a little bit %HESITATION Eric what you have come across when it comes to this identification issue before and after yes Sir it's a very interesting point you bring up how how they actually quantify and what training that the intelligence apparatus goes through in order to identify terrorists or identify ISIS militants I wonder53/153
what type of characteristics are looking for when it comes to gathering intelligence because I worked when I was in the air before saw it on a few occasions always in an intelligence briefing I can discuss what happened but it was anything it was anything are you know intelligence are heavy because I was only a mechanic well you just it shows that there are there are group54/153
settings where people give their opinions and they they they have a black border they have a powerpoint presentation and the debate on day my debate on what the logistics of an operation as anyone who they're going after who is inside want house hot %HESITATION building hospital you name it and I think that it would be interesting to kind of have to kind of discover and dig55/153
deeper into how how intelligence training actually occurs and how the target is individuals through signature strikes which is they they search for a pattern that they recognize and they can actually strike based on a signature that they see regardless of if they if they guarantee that it's actually a militant or a suspect and there's also precision strikes which is when the intelligence is probably are a56/153
bit more of an Ansel thats now has pressure on the situation they can actually they recognize the face they recognize they receive word from someone in the local population we seen time and time again that this whole there's geopolitical conditioning can reduce a at a military aides mail to a child as professor publicity has demonstrated it in his teens and also %HESITATION and in addition to57/153
that you you can also see that it's it's a very it's a very vague fame to identify a man who are supposed to be no tense sometimes they don't have guns sometimes they're firing guns in their own camera which is an exception there is actually a video that are a S. Waddington that I'm doing a little bit of research on for my next article and our