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Title: The Final Stage of Erdogan's Takedown - BFP Eyeopener
Published: 2015-12-22
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4QHsRuEE88
Title: The Final Stage of Erdogan's Takedown - BFP Eyeopener
Published: 2015-12-22
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4QHsRuEE88
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projects were here quarter report dot com today is the twenty second of December two thousand fifteen so just about to turn into Christmas but before we take a Christmas new year break at the corporate reports I thought it would be high time to get on someone that a lot of people have been asking for in light of recent events of course that it's developments founder and2/88
editor of boiling frog post dot com to talk about what's going on with Turkey lately and I think if you've been watching the news at all you'll have noticed and narrative emerging %HESITATION about Turkey and its relation to Syria and ISIS and its war on me brewing Cold War with Russia I its internal battles with the Kurdish elements in in Turkey via the jailing of journalists3/88
and other things getting a lot of attention right now there's a lot of brouhaha going around about Turkey and obviously this is something that we've covered with Sibel on this program before in the past so in order to set the table for today's conversation I would invite you to go back and listen or re listen to our conversation that we had a year and a half4/88
ago %HESITATION Sibel Edmonds explains early ones fall from grace where we talk about the CIA's reverse engineering of earned a one hour from a golden boy serviceable puppets to that for the on the mouthpiece establishment back even for five years ago suddenly becoming the pariah of the international politics on a in the recent months and it's interesting to note that change and it's something that I5/88
noted in a recent editorial called is earned one being set up for a NATO backed coup where I took a look at this the the media coverage that has taken place as of late and found eve I I what I think is a disturbing trend towards vilification of Erdogan among in in across the entire board the alternative media the mainstream media U. S. media Russian media6/88
US officials Russian official everyone seems to be ganging up on her to one right now and I suppose we should preface this conversation by saying there are no good guys in international geopolitics and we are not defending any particular bad guy but it does seem strange that this is the exact point at which all different forms of analysis are converging and there's no one that seems7/88
to be taking a step back to look at the bigger picture and see if something is being set up right now so with all that being said and with all of that background being the show notes for this conversation so you can go and research more about that up for yourself let's bring Sibel on to the program Sibel thank you very much for joining us today8/88
and first of all let me just ask if it is your assessment as well that we are seeing a kind of strange convergence of a lot of different media narratives on this singular point of order one is the pariah on the international stage right now absolutely one hundred percent with you on that it's Saddam to appoint him off being so real and being so many cited9/88
a as you can see Turkey has been so isolated because of beat what's going on between Turkey and Iran because that's relationship has cooled significantly since the beginning golf this conflict that Syria which started by NATO US operations in two thousand eleven and be covered that Turkey and Syria Turkey and Iran and now of course latest Turkey and Russia and the relationship started really getting frosty10/88
as you know in two thousand twelve two thousand thirteen with the United States and NATO because affect to la you land and the whole CIA operation and the rest it's mean out between Erica on and you lead and that that yes he protests that you were covering and we talked about all that and I said it's basically time for him to go but the biggest obstacle11/88
the US has been facing has been the popularity of Erica on up until recently about a year year and a half ago a Turkey as a preventive mechanism while that obstacle BC god has been removed to a certain extent domestically in Turkey but %HESITATION with international aesculap shin we are seeing this incredibly well designed yeah almost unanimous as you said unanimous coverage of vilify and one12/88
no let's let's speak clear about why this is such an important %HESITATION at move and by setting up the that the historical context for this I mean is what %HESITATION no one is doing right now objectively any worse than what has been going on in Turkey for decades under other leadership absolutely not and I'm giving it definitive answer here one hundred percent answer because I have13/88
lived under so many different %HESITATION administrations in Turkey so what you had in Turkey since nineteen eighty the United States NATO CI a day massaged and direct the Turkish military to opt for a crew and he had the nineteen eighty one coup in Turkey and we have the military regime which was installed by the United States okay and this kind of continued till nineteen eighty six14/88
nineteen eighty seven then puppets were installed as he's suppose that elected well elected government the candidates that were actually forced upon people and if you look at these people who became prime ministers since nineteen eighty six you will see what connects them a all of them almost had citizenship in the United States one or two of them were a high level people in IMF these are15/88
Turkish people who became prime minister then he had this this this despicable woman comes to Chandler okay she became the prime minister well she left the country she left Turkey came to the United States because her husband swindled the public he had a bangs so he got hundreds of millions of dollars left the bank bankrupt okay is similar to our situation that the experience yet he16/88
came to the United States you went to Harvard University they were giving so they were given citizenship while they were most wanted it actually that's the husband in Turkey and lo behold you S. CIA after grooming this woman they brought both of them back to Turkey all the charges were dropped against the husband she became prime minister okay and ask what has people talking about the17/88
treatment of journalism I am not defending Erica on it you know his track record is awful I'm not defending him in any way however do you mean these other prime ministers the puppets installed that the U. S. puppets installed in Turkey between nineteen eighty and shoot Hausen me had how dozens of reporters disappearing being tortured mass jailing book authors and journalists even ports okay so if18/88
you were to put it in use relative terms everyone is mild compared to what those people being absent what everyone is doing in terms of journalism and the press is terrible but that his predecessors they were hot Hausen kinds wars and deal with no coverage in the United about the atrocities that were being committed in Turkey torture human rights abuses the stuff that was happening with19/88
these Kurdish villages I mean they were boating Dennis is as close to genocide that as it as it can get no coverage you wanted to sell weapons and if we ended up acknowledging these atrocities that Congress would have put in place the embargo and say sanction and you're not gonna send any weapons you don't want to have that plus we were training people training both the20/88
military and Turkish MIT to do what they were doing in nineteen eighties it was good counter Russia Soviet Union and after that he was getting into operation you Gladio so I think the you are not reading any of those I'm not talking about the I'm talking about people in general off what church he had before and and and put it in relative terms what you see21/88
of it Eric what and each you are to do that you would see even with the horrible deeds that his committee it's nothing compared to his predecessors and we had no such coverage in Turkey I'm in the United States in the United Kingdom because those were the our NATO U. S. puppets installed they beat actually to coo and installation be put those people in place with22/88
everyone everyone's party anyone elections okay fair and square in nineteen ninety seven okay people voted majority for everyone's at his party AKP within two weeks militarist that denies that the hope that it doesn't count because we don't like these guys will Turkish military you don't take a piss without getting permission from the United States and NATO so it was the United States NATO saying we don't23/88
want this guy so then we actually not wanting to air gone had been in place even before he was elected the second time since nineteen nineties well as always the brakes move spotlight of media outrage and and %HESITATION moral moral shock is always selectively focused and here is no exception to that rule but I guess the question then is who is pulling these strings at this24/88
time is that NATO CIA is it is that %HESITATION Israel is it elements within Turkey is that the Kurds is that Russia who's really pulling the strings and why now I have to say all of the above because currently and the wind and the current administration they're in this many front that wars okay I mean we talk about I said Russia with Iran relationship coolly %HESITATION25/88
beat the United United States NATO will be happy covered the issue affects will lock you handled that to lock you lance network what's twenty two billion dollars and as we know and go on actually through that quart dare desu pre court they actually issued this warrant saying we want this guide return to Turkey and they filed it with the United States government so you're looking at26/88
this twenty two billion dollar word guy was in the United States he's wanted in Turkey he works for the CI a you know what kind of lobby this guy has there has been some coverage here and there on that to lock you land just take a look at the number of senators and Congress woman and Congress man he has pocketed you know with with with direct27/88
and indirect bribery so so you get a lot of media coverage that is completely guided directed by Q. land which works who works for the CI a and of course you have NATO and now of course Russia has added its voice and has entered so actually Russia is fighting with with these groups okay indirectly of so it is many frantic and and the people you are28/88
seeing here again I know I have said this before in your program Kurtz as always are being used and they are going to be disposed of help all the time this this scenario this story %HESITATION different versions of the same story has come into place so many times in Turkish politics east Turkish both domestic politics and international politics and I know they feel like right now29/88
they have the they have some backing but they are just the bargaining chip and and they have always been used as bargaining chips and later quashed and destroyed so some of these figures you see going to Russia and being you know Pat on the back and and go phrases that are being some here in the United States in New York times etcetera Barry if they are30/88
temporary as you know just like KLA and all other organizations today they would do it six months later they gonna be listed as terrorist organization by the state department so it's going to be short lived poured out right now they're just serving the function of a bargaining chip or it will let me let me Ben put %HESITATION push back a little bit on this narrative and31/88
say well I that earned one is clearly involved in some manner in what's been going on in Syria Turkey has been a staging ground for a base of operations for Syrian opposition IE terrorists it has been a smuggling route for funds for arms for a hug for four fighters it has been a smuggling route out of Syria through Turkey for oil and %HESITATION to one's family32/88
members are implicated in that and I think a credible way and Erdogan himself is linked to alleged terrorist financier Yassin all cadi who we've talked about before and other things of this sort I mean there's clearly some fundamental corruption going on and on top of that I haven't heard and heard one kicking back against any of these types of elements within you know that the military33/88
or the government that are threatening against him I I maybe that is going on but but why he is or where it does this not implicate everyone himself in what's going on in in in Syria for example for this you have to go back to two thousand eleven been no long was covering Syria and we broke the story of a Turkey NATO U. S. training the34/88
what the people we call isis today eternity in U. S. airforce base in usually in Adana on the border so this stuff that you just listed everyone doing up until I would say two thousand fourteen meet two thousand fourteen was under direct order by the United States and the CIA that he was doing and he was doing it under direct order from NATO so you in35/88
terms of training I says which was actually NATO troops and US troops actually doing the training and the base all those were completely done under direct order by the United States and to gather jointly with the United States so what happened was date this is the United States they being the United States they wanted to have a week Libya scenario with Syria okay it didn't happen36/88
we were covering it in two thousand eleven what happened we ended up with the situation between Ukraine and Russia because then the United States the CIA NATO they have to put the Syria and the whole goal objectives but see Syria on the back burner as they just sit here and simmer we gonna going get easy but Ukraine we have another front okay we don't wanna fight37/88
in many frantic voice so the focus shifted to Ukraine now when this happened until this point everything was being directly ordered to Truckee everyone and they were implement the wall jerk he everyone found itself in this situation saying you told us to do this now do you have to have a million by Dan it was half a million now is close to two million refugees coming38/88
again plus yeah basically declared war against Assad this has wrecked our relationship with Iran and and and decreased commerce okay so they ended up so singularly continuing what the United States NATO started while they were busy United States doing the Ukraine front and then of course a lot of things the whole mechanism change when they went back this is the United States back to let's go39/88
back to the Syria issue and Russia playing its part and then trip he you know way fell and this is everyone really be traded is like you basically dog weights you you started yes and after that it was not stoppable any what you gonna do your do you have one million refugees you're at war basically with with Syria so we gotta go ahead and do it40/88
our way and that's what we have been seeing in the past one year and the and the entire scenario now has of course in you active participant which happens to be Russia and Puget yes and that brings in another interesting aspect of all of this because as we talked about with the media coverage it shouldn't be surprising that the mainstream establishment mouthpiece media would be on41/88
board with whatever these the overall agenda narrative is but it is somewhat surprising that the alternative media seems to be in lockstep with that same agenda at this moment unquestioningly swallowing this side is changing narrative and suddenly starting to Daemonites are the one who they probably couldn't wealth probably still can't even pronounce let alone understand who he is let alone understand that the history of this42/88
so it's it's strange that this is happening let's talk about the old parody in out the whole thing you know with Hitler who just Pete the same thing enough time and that becomes reality that it comes back a lot of things we are hearing a lot of things we are %HESITATION reading some of them are not through some of them are true but date does truth43/88
the truth has to be placed within the context within the history and it needs to be our Buick true different angles Aspin you really get into that your aspect pure truth part of it because what we are getting is this muddied up parroting repeated I mean I just read and I sent you the link written by Phil Giraldi of former CIA officer floor you NZ at44/88
hand and slight I'm not seeing what he was he was narrating there was not true but eek miss it's missing contacts it's missing so many other directly relevant ingredients which makes it of him eighteen am I would say %HESITATION it's not accurate because it is so one sided any disown nature to beat out all the other elements that are present that make me shake my head45/88
because Phil Gerald Giraldi he was stationed in Turkey even he was working for the CI a he knows all these aliments and and %HESITATION and he seems to be basically parenting exactly the same line as everyone else I mean I don't care whether it's the last order right Mother Jones or even Lou Rockwell site it's it's it's insane how uniform it has become that's right and46/88
a lot of that seems to me to be in of course not by siding with the U. S. NATO CI a part at least openly but really siding with Russia in all of this what do you make of the Russia worship that's going on in a lot of sectors of the old media right now you know me briefly talk about this this of innate need him47/88
most people majority off all funeral seeking you know you want to have a leader you want to have a hero and and if you can't find one to go create one you know each team up in you were talking you and I about Greenwald and Snowden and suddenly this was going to cause revolution remember an an old that all the things that were going to change48/88
this was if this was what people were waiting for east you are seeing it today are in the past especially yours though with Russia amps Ted and the you know how we always talk about CNN's coverage in two thousand three two thousand four of Iraq war you know shock and awe me you don't watch Russian media especially RT I would say they are playing the shock49/88
and awe three times worse than CNN did he's like the dropped thirty eight bombs is like eonline endeavor to pre so you know that I am Marvel and need that parallel between the U. S. mainstream media war mongering you know how am I see you Love Me U. S. mainstream media and what we see today are key eats aunts me and it's not a CAP it's50/88
completely nauseating every single time I put into making the very people who reject that from CNN in those sources or embrace it wholeheartedly on the Russian side do you know why of course is obvious because we evolved U. S. and U. S. stuff it was sticking it to the United States seat when you go to court does that you have a murder case or whatever one51/88
of the things that comes into play is the intact did you have the criminal intent or was it like you know it was it done beat out intending that to do the harm well Whitney out with the intention of art he was sure they did they did have excellent coverage on U. S. civil liberties which lacks what's the liberties and all these cases warmongering to the52/88
United States they shine they were great they were not going to because eat care about the people's welfare in the United States and their liberties he did it because they wanted to ask rushed to United States if they want to stick it to the United States what was their intention and some positive externalities came out of that now they have their own interests because they are53/88
the mouthpiece of cute and and and I'm breaking is dictated from the above that publication doesn't have one percent freedom because I am talking I have been talking but certain U. S. reporters and correspondence and they are specifically told as long as you do not criticize Russia or puritan okay this actually goes beyond and above what our mainstream media is doing here itself it's discussed thing54/88
so under D. circumstances with that level of hypocrisy it's mind boggling me have this major I means a big percentage of people intellectual school right who are worshipping people ten they're worshipping are the and and and the really sweet Pugin as messiah I mean he's a scumbag made hundreds of millions of dollars I know it I know it first hand in the banks in the Greek55/88
side of Cyprus island of Cyprus last summer when I was traveling in the region you have no idea how many yachts I thought you're looking at the author of forty million dollars fifty million dollars these are old Russian oligarchs who have Shiite positions within Russian government I mean they have these yachts that make the yachts of Saudis looked he'll okay there's no coverage of any no56/88
but subtle Putin is fighting the oligarchs don't you understand what he is that yes there president any I just saw some some dummy is is writing about how pugilist celebrating whatever holidays years among the people in some village in Russia because he's that he's the common man's man and I am disgusted I mean I am discuss that but I'm also frustrated because I mean you get57/88
people who were you know Reagan's %HESITATION he was assistant US secretary during the Reagan and I respected you your rights magnificent articles Paul Craig Roberts and I've been so disappointed I haven't been able to publish any of his latest articles because every time I go there he's like is messiah piyyutim and and and the I. that grates Russian government and and and the greatest Russia I