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Title: The BFP Roundtable Takes on the Islamic Terror Hype
Published: 2014-11-01
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV1LkPcmDz4
Title: The BFP Roundtable Takes on the Islamic Terror Hype
Published: 2014-11-01
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV1LkPcmDz4
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so it's just like okay let's just have a real calm real coffee and no censorship welcome to the boiling frog post round table in San Francisco I'm Peter B. Collins I host podcasts that Peter B. Collins dot com ND processing distortion weekly podcast at boiling frogs postdoctoral joining us from deep in the heart of Texas is Guillermo Jimenez he operates demanded factoring consent and traces of2/174
reality dot com and of course is a weekly contributor here at boiling frogs post Yermo welcome thank you James Corbett is usual joins us from Japan where he anchors Corbett report dot com and of course %HESITATION the a podcast series the video podcast series at boiling frogs post also with this of course is our publisher %HESITATION and the founder of boiling frog post dot com Sibel3/174
Edmonds the author of a powerful new novel called the lone Gladio that %HESITATION I certainly enjoyed and %HESITATION I think there's a lot in there for our viewers to check out Sibel good to have you with us hello everyone so we're speaking a couple of days before Halloween and while we are not in costume it seems like the %HESITATION that this theatrical fear of Halloween started4/174
in August and will continue well beyond and the sources of fear are the propaganda %HESITATION around the Islamic state this is a threat to life on the planet as we know it that his because president Obama to launch air strikes in Iraq and Syria also domestically the media the corporate media is giving heavy coverage to the a bola issues and with it it also becomes a5/174
source of up palpable fear %HESITATION in the American public I don't believe it's in it's coincidental that this is occurring just before the mid term elections in November and I think that members of both political parties are doing what they can to exploit these fears in an effort to cynically pick up votes so belt let's start with you because the framing of this monster the Islamic6/174
state is driven not only by the effective propaganda that they produce but by the way it is played in the U. S. media and played off by American political leaders who have created this fear and dread that actors from the Islamic state with American or Canadian passports are any moment now about to descend here in the so called homeland and launch %HESITATION terrorist attacks there is7/174
no evidence of that the government has offered us conflicting numbers of their estimates of the number of people who might be prone to do that but with the recent events in Canada and Australia we see those governments embracing police state new laws but in response to water a series of lone wolf attacks how absolutely a I have been you lately framing this with them marketing %HESITATION8/174
paradox of marketing and marketing frame because you start first with the brand okay and be had for twelve thirteen years one brands %HESITATION with propaganda and all the %HESITATION mainstream the China tackles look that each state here the war machine out kinda was created an outright no grand each you are had been I know you had been paying attention what are our viewers I think kind9/174
of has been losing is a fact impact in the past few years even in some of the mainstream media programs we have seen people making fun of bed and comedies are being made up al Qaeda so that kind of %HESITATION created a panicked within the us each state saying that rand is not doing very well why don't be legal lands the working man that we created10/174
and have come up with something out so first they came up with the brand and the strategic leave within this new brands they inserted the charm Islam and again gas was very well calculated it was by design and and shoot in there Islamic %HESITATION state so and then you can have all the various abbreviation one one thing that remains constant that is the Islamic state okay11/174
and that within just a few months they have been able to blow up this this this Islamic state so called Islamic state new will demand that they create it in all financing it's raining down we have covered it through boiling frog suppose then orbit report in terms of what happened in Turkey three years ago %HESITATION and and these people were trained you know he gains a12/174
size regime at senator out harm you wrap it so he's our guy and then be re background that them and make them whole you know Islamic state la la sh and then I just in the past few months I've been reading some headlines that %HESITATION are unbelievable fantastical impact three days ago I I just couldn't help myself and I kept reading about it yeah he did13/174
the headlines that are based on government calculation currently this I. S. business is the south is the wealthiest terror organization the wealthiest terrorist cell in the world you know yes exactly like some start up business that you want to take public you know have stocks created for it you know you put together you come up with the logo you have a brand name and you kind14/174
of market the Branciforte keep hearing get and then you start making this business school so fantastical you know so that that's what usually companies do before they go public so it's very Wall Street like approach this I. S. business that that they have created yet and it is a business because if you look at the %HESITATION stock prices for that major war industry related corporations you15/174
see how it has gone up up together but the creation of the brand I. S. L. and and so that that that that is as far as the brand those but as far as training goes again I will go back to the brand then did the word Islam was in started chewing each was not coincidental it was not by accident and it was for a purpose16/174
and and if we use the higher to achieve certain types of in a fact and unfortunately we are seeing does a fax now around us and that is the entire western world putting this within the contacts in the frame of Islam this is what the Moslems do you see a guy and everything is shallow water you know they is wearing there and beat that ferocious looking17/174
shawl and he has a big wart and he's he hadn't I mean so scary guess horrible and I'm not putting that down I'm not lowering effect is is that it's the despicable act but of white they are doing is they're taking this one to ten or fifteen incidents okay casualties and they are turning it currently does something that was that is bigger than even what al18/174
Qaeda was we don't know their maybe millions of these people are there may be only twenty five of them within the south but there to wealthiest Sarah carousel in the world they can attack us here they can attack France they can attack the United Kingdom why don't they have rockets they have nuclear bombs they have the briefcase bomb they have a suitcase bomb they have chlorine19/174
gas but they have other kind of chemical weapons you imagine how unbelievably thank classical this thing here is that in a few months you have this entire team being created in achieving this level I mean even Donald Trump would shake his hand you know the guy is really famous and he has done it so many diet going out there and making a business out of nothing20/174
you know just based on height but as far as height business is concerned %HESITATION considered this is this is the height of any height that I have ever seen and and and and I'm hoping that Pat Davey will discuss %HESITATION this within the context of Islam and and provide our viewers with some other examples and context to to make them aware psychologically mentally on what this21/174
propaganda is a year to do because unfortunately as I mentioned the %HESITATION the deep state establishment day happy in achieving the facts the results that they intended to up to achieve when they created this practice so do you go %HESITATION is I. S. the Kardashian of of terrorism anyway yeah how adamant that interrupted how do you view the launch here that they launched a new product22/174
if we go back to %HESITATION two thousand to two thousand three the bush team said well you never launch a new product in August nobody's paying attention so on September tenth Obama gives this of fear riddled speech and declares that the Islamic state is the most evil of all evil and must be vanquished %HESITATION by U. S. airstrikes and %HESITATION he may have been crossing his23/174
fingers when he said that he would not insert American troops in to Syria or again into Iraq right we discussed this %HESITATION recently on on a B. WL podcast the fact that this is not a coincidence that this tends to happen %HESITATION yearly around this time of year right after summer right after welcomes back up %HESITATION from summer break back to work and that's when I24/174
have this really takes off and I think that the marketing %HESITATION metaphor that's a bell a was using is is is right on and just extend that metaphor a bit you know I think we could if we if weirdo follow the money so to speak and look at who benefits financially from all of this I we can see the people who got in on the ground25/174
floor so to speak of this ISIS IPO others that that's launched into it so yeah I think you're I think you're absolutely right and I were the focus a little bit on one of things he mentions the books I think one of the things that really struck me and that that I can I want to highlight today something that you really stress recently in an interview26/174
out with I think it was Sean stone on his show and I don't recall anything it's as a muscle in the recent energy that yeah it's so you're talking about and you really drive this point home and I really appreciated that that it we were talking about how exactly this bet that not only has %HESITATION this is been a marketing tool but it's being used to27/174
to demon eyes a group of people in such a way that we haven't seen in quite sometime there are historical parallels for sure and I think we can get into them today but it's really it's it's it's all like something that that but I've ever seen at the VP nine that student perhaps that has to do with the media to believe and so you know I28/174
can I just can't take that into account but I I I did think that was a very important point to stress the way that %HESITATION the are demonizing Muslims the argument Ising Islam and you can really stirring up these really ugly nationalistic %HESITATION emotions of of patriotism and xenophobia and and in my opinion racism in many ways and I sing this of not only directed ants29/174
are specifically Muslims and specifically on Islam it's also being used to aren't redirect attention at least in some circles to the southern U. S. border which is why we're right sort of pay my most attention to these days in what I've seen also is is is it didn't end throughout the whole media whether it's mainstream and some sectors of the alt media they've been using the30/174
threat of terror the threat of ISIS and again this is nothing you was that the same thing happened with al Qaeda but it's being reviewed now with isis to directed at the southern border and say look you know these ISIS terrorists are going to come over here other unix sneak over the Mexican border so we need to close it down we need to send troops down31/174
to the border we need a further militarize that we need to you know get more out of the police state gadgetry down there to to ensure that those that doesn't happen and again it I think it it it's the same sort of %HESITATION emotions that are in folk that you were describing during that interview and you mentioned here today of the same as you know xenophobic32/174
racist the same sort of %HESITATION ideas here it's being used in sort of up to one of the two two full front where at this what they signed a two for one source spatulate they're running when they can at that what that that same time demonized ends Islam get that war on terror going in at the same time also redirect attention to say out by the33/174
way we also here for that further militarize other southern border in the communities that live in that area and so I get I seen this throughout the media are in various different outlets so I would guess just gonna throw in that angle to the cook throw that into the mix and and and see what they're what you all think about that but %HESITATION but no I34/174
wouldn't read so far with everything that that with the set so far James say give us the benefit of your perspective from outside the United States because I would make the point that in %HESITATION two thousand three when bush launched an obvious fool's errand with the invasion of Iraq there are some ten million people worldwide who took to the streets to express their protest and here35/174
because Obama %HESITATION is the the man who pulled the trigger and because of the effective marketing and propaganda that we've seen there is hardly a hint of protest even from the hard core of peace and %HESITATION and justice groups that were %HESITATION growing and %HESITATION growing in their influence during the bush era well that's correct and of course we did see signs of that last year36/174
with the hands off Syria campaign but obviously that's gone by the wayside because of this successful marketing campaign and I can give you the perspective specifically from here in Japan where which would be just about one of the last places on earth where you would think this type of marketing would be effective and yet we've had died just a few weeks ago there was a plot37/174
busted of men and in Japanese men who were planning to fight for ISIS police say is the headline that the New York Times ran with and this is about a bust of some I guess the university student and some man who was trying to radicalize him at a bookstore in Tokyo or something of that sort %HESITATION very %HESITATION Boughton not a very threatening %HESITATION story if38/174
you if you actually start to dig into it but in the other the terror brand is being sold here at equally as as it is in it elsewhere in the west so and it it is quite effective in that regard because again just about any place in the world can be affected at can be %HESITATION I can be inflicted by this this marketing if they just39/174
Freeman in the right way %HESITATION your in trouble to you better I help in this worldwide quest against Islamic terrorism and so I wanna pick up on just two of the points that bill raised a in that opening statement that I think are extremely important the first one being just the observation of the incorruptible at rise the ascension of this great terror group that now as40/174
she says has nuclear materials in their possession four hundred twenty nine million dollars that they plundered from the Mosel central bank and and %HESITATION on and on and on %HESITATION just all the incredible it of facilities that have that they supposedly have now at their disposal %HESITATION which you would have to say this is that the primary example of the that the dog that didn't bark41/174
silver blazes sigh Sherlock Holmes you know I mean if the CIA who if we were to take the CIA in these types of groups seriously the fact that they have not been able to foresee or prevent the rise of this spectacularly powerful and effective terror group in the space of a few months I'd buy alone shows that they are absolutely unworthy of of the other than42/174
this the titles in the money that's given to them of course we all know that that's because they're really working towards the creation of these terror groups but anyway that's just one thing to note on this the other part of this is via the idea that specifically it is is land that is being brought into this and I would say that although there are identifiable elements43/174
within his land that of course can interpret those teachings in violent ways and do do so that is of course not inherently intrinsic to is lamb in particular and we can see that in pretty much every major religion we can see examples of that and for I the the Christians in the crowd who rolled their eyes whenever the Westboro Brett Baptist churches brought up as some44/174
sort of exemplar of what Christian morality is about what people will say well that's ridiculous because in you know ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of Christians think that those people are insane %HESITATION well it again it's the exact same thing in Islam but we don't say that any time that a Christian commits an act of a criminal act that it's some sort of Christian45/174
terrorists in the same way that %HESITATION generally speaking that the media will never look at %HESITATION at Jewish racism against Arabs in Israel and say all the you know those Jews there always there always wrist racist in their in their their inciting terror in their in nine in Palestine %HESITATION you'll never see I'm coverage for example of the Buddhist monks that are now joining flash mobs46/174
against Muslims that leave %HESITATION dozens of Muslims dead in Sri Lanka in Burma I mean it happens in every major religion there are elements within their that will commit acts of violence and die and it it's never framed as in this is the religion causing people to do this it's always frame does you know is it the only friend in that sense when it's politically convenient47/174
to do so so I think it is important to look at the way that Islamic terror has been framed as Islamic in nature and why that is and I guess that's really the question what is the what is the purpose of this and I think that's half the probably do with with %HESITATION glad you'll be in the way that we've been set up for the last48/174
couple of decades to to be condition for this Islamic terrorism that has been inculcated in certain Esther geo strategic areas but I'll leave that to the bell and everyone else to comment on well James and I I would build on your remarks that %HESITATION we're seeing this very selective outrage %HESITATION that's exercise particularly by the mainstream media in this country it all just cite a couple49/174
of examples that on the last Sunday of October the New York Times ran a lengthy front page story %HESITATION which did advance a much more detail about what happened to James Foley after he was captured and then held prisoner he was waterboarded %HESITATION and subjected to other forms of torture remarkably similar to the torture regimes that the U. S. O. refers to euphemistically as enhanced interrogation50/174
techniques Furthermore love we have %HESITATION sent but not so far that I'm aware of used %HESITATION depleted uranium munitions %HESITATION in this new perpetual war the damage from T. you in Iraq is really just starting to surface in birth defects and up with far more cancers that are showing up in the general population and we %HESITATION the U. S. John Kerry was thundering last week that51/174
%HESITATION there are reports that the Islamic state used chlorine gas you no weapon formed well I in the the battle for Kobani and I regard depleted uranium as a chemical or biological weapons %HESITATION that is certainly you know much more toxic long term %HESITATION then the chemical weapons that have been of blamed on the Islamic state likewise John Kerry who thundered about this didn't bother %HESITATION52/174
to remark that he had fully blamed the Syrian government for the sarin attacks in kuta in August of two thousand thirteen and that %HESITATION now it appears to be more consistent that it was the Sunni radicals of fighting in Syria who were more likely to have introduced chemical weapons there and so this this selective outrage over a a couple of beheadings when Saudi Arabia has beheaded53/174
more than fifty nine people already this year and not a peep from the US government about that it just shows that the you know the outrage is focused on as you pointed out %HESITATION Islamic a individuals and groups %HESITATION that are now demonized as the you know the worst of the worst on the planet and you know I guess it once again we have to say54/174
that we don't favor %HESITATION decapitation or of the massacre of innocent people because they happen to be of a different religion but that is not the basis for this %HESITATION poor truly thought strategy if there is one %HESITATION end the phony coalition of of partners with the United States who all have different agendas and only pay lip service to our stated mission to degrade or wiped55/174
out %HESITATION the Islamic state so these inconsistencies %HESITATION really amount to a great deal of in coherence but most people in the United States it is falling in line not asking any questions not showing any skepticism and %HESITATION just embracing the the the names that have been launched a by the administration and embraced in endorsed by the media Sibel no absolutely %HESITATION well said Peter this56/174
is a prelude to a much bigger award that is intended okay and EDS garnering the public support before E. do launch multi front multi fronted wars in the area he still now that that Iran is the prize there it's it's there I'll be ended up having yeah the issues which Russians and things have to be placed on hold with Syria about year and a half two57/174
years ago we had %HESITATION session with James and I was talking about this is that temporary who off period and that issue is going to start a game it's serious not going anywhere because at the time people were celebrating say okay this issue with you ten and Russia putting his foot down put an end to that going there and invading serious it none of that's just