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Title: Sibel Edmonds: Is Independent Open Source Media Viable?
Published: 2016-11-04
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8wuJl0jBWE
Title: Sibel Edmonds: Is Independent Open Source Media Viable?
Published: 2016-11-04
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8wuJl0jBWE
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everyone in spirit with news but dot com joined here with Sibel Edmonds our last session we discussed the for media models that are in existence today and we're gonna die a little bit deeper into that and focus in on the two models that are most relevant for who we are and what we do the open source model versus the subscription model as pointed like to bring2/52
in news but founder and editor Sibel Edmonds about welcome hello everyone highs zero are absolutely did two models that are relevant to what we have been doing here are the subscription model open source model and on and off in the past six seven years even way back when been be started boiling frogs post BFB report we talked about how do we sustain ourselves and at that3/52
point be realized in order to have on going support that you can count on and based on that you know nowhere be stand how much we can expand how many people we can you know bring onboard the decided on subscription model and saying that okay behalf that core group of people who enjoy reading the analysis we are putting out there and the podcast programs etcetera anda4/52
and they enjoy not to commit to say okay every month I will pay you when it whatever it is five dollars or six dollars some people who can do more of the U. more and they have been doing more there are people who have been putting fifty dollars a month then you know what I can and I appreciate what I'm seeing so subscription model was our5/52
model and and we kept going you know back importance saying you're creating all this great content and of course the first preference would be to open it all because you want to get this information as many people as possible I mean after all we keep saying informing or or having the debate a continual between not only us what we are producing but through the comments that6/52
are coming under our you tube channel or you know on our website good but the dilemma that we face where it was well how do you balance that you meaning the open source of course is the ultimate model the best mark okay well on top of that we say yup you not gonna have any advertisement no corporate advertisement whatsoever okay so no advertisement money we are7/52
saying no to foundation well the open source model will be only possible if people with their actions say yes I appreciate the content I see value in it and now willing to commit to pay for whatever I can per month to sustain this because its model this news organization is important to me and every time we tried as boiling frog supposed he kept coming back to8/52
subscription sure they were wonderful dedicated individuals who genera generously donated I mean we didn't have enough because unfortunately even today after seeing the agenda driven news you know sugar Daddies from various foundations that corporate advertisement and the censorship that comes with that the pressure that comes with that there is still this thinking mode out there of that says for many people it is free why do9/52
I have to pay for it I enjoyed I love what they're doing but hopefully other people will pay hopefully other people will say Hey I'm gonna put five Bucks in this I'm gonna put five hundred boxes I'm gonna put twenty five Bucks in this so you get this thing that is a very common phenomenon in %HESITATION phenomena in a in psychology meaning is almost like prisoners10/52
them I say everybody thinking someone else is gonna do it and I can take advantages for free or maybe Stephen too difficult for me to open my wallet take out my credit card and or or send the check and send it to the PO box all these reasons made of the open source model not possible for boiling frocks post so what we did is that we11/52
came up with this model is that okay we are going to have certain level of funding come through Kickstarter in four faces which we are doing but meanwhile the are going to keep asking people to voluntarily subscribed and eighty four cost of couple of cups of coffee per month so that we can count on that and between the two we won't be able to accomplish this12/52
objective of independent media non partisan media no corporate money no foundation money etcetera %HESITATION and that's exactly where we are here all for subscription eighty eight we are asking people to voluntarily do dat we doubt taking our content and put it behind firewalls you know all the P. wall that this subscription wall of them whether we do it say okay for the first two weeks of13/52
publication of this video by this producer we are going to make this content available to our subscribers which is we just right you know these are the people who are willing to step up to the plate and say I am supporting you and then after a couple of weeks or three weeks or four weeks once their archive make it public to everyone and to reach this14/52
balance that yes eventually make our content public but we are going to force appreciate and give this content to people who are willing to participate because many are saying their hundred person people funded media is the media organization that you're all owners meaning all our viewers are part owners in this company in despondent station in this media entity so even though he wanted to start doing15/52
that right after our first space space one he said you know what now less less less hold off and let's just make it everyday make everything public immediately so we publish it everybody gets it and am I not Kickstarter campaign the way it's going and also people voluntarily subscribing yet hopefully will prove this matter at the best method and right well password BR today we are16/52
one hundred percent open source so as viewers as readers what we want you to do is to think about it think about the salary of the people involved here who are spending way above forty hours a week wave and it to produce the writers the web administrators all this all this amount of work level of work resources that are going into this and say plus I17/52
don't have to put up with adds I don't have to question I wonder about quarter corporations were finding them I don't have to ever bother myself they whose agenda there representing weather's George Soros or somebody from the right side well how is that possible just just pause just pause and think about it that is the answer the one that just occurred to you well of course18/52
by people by each person each individual doing their share I mean currently our Kickstarter is aiming for hundred thirty thousand dollars on average every day behalf five to six thousand unique IP addresses people visiting our website enjoying the articles watching to BDO's looking at our new selection if five thousand people okay five thousand people each one of those people work together like Adam fifty dollars where19/52
would we get with that I am by now campaign will be over right so it's not something that is outrageous way out there not that she will pull the only thing that it depends on the only thing that it depends upon is for people to just stop and think they are everything we want no agenda no party etcetera and we are the ones who can keep20/52
them operational we are the ones who can help them grow get even bigger stronger you know wants to camp with the matter business or in the case of subscription versus open source we are the ones who will determine whether open source has a chance you see you know how people they say well in this case is not this particular issue on trial it's this concept the21/52
concept of your concept of liberty on trial right well in this particular case the whole concept notion of open source being to be totally independent and open source is on trial meeting would be to gather you together with us artist's soul determinants off whether this can be one hundred percent open source one hundred percent independent so please keep that in mind and that's exactly what news22/52
but what's what we want is we want people people mostly value with this not if you don't see value you know see value mean who are we to judge you for that but if you see any value if you're coming and visiting our website if you're watching our video you're saying wow this was amazing I had not heard this particular angle of Allah explanation or dis23/52
report that is such an amazing expose then do your share say I want this I see value in this and it is up to me and individuals like me to sustain this to make this growth to make it stronger and to prove to the other side the other side yes it is I mean the same concept applies to even presidential race or people are or running24/52
for Senate especially today with the internet they have to glance his because of the corporations and sell their souls to get millions of dollars from this particular financial institution or that particular pharma if people were to find the kind of leadership they wanted and they work to support it you know even those corporations would be irrelevant because imagine her what are the three hundred something three25/52
hundred million people are population imagine what ten fifteen million people can do you not so it's the same thing this is open source and trial and we want to continue operating this way meaning reproduce you receive are at and you will determine whether it's possible or not you get the support from you will continue will expand beyond that is going to be okay so he will26/52
going to subscription model and and right now this is a consensus among all our team members that yes we want to remain open source and back depends on you Isabel I have to say that I have not %HESITATION seen any other media outlet even mentioning are uttering the words of of disclosing where their funding comes from this is a this is a one of a kind27/52
deal here that the the vision that you had in putting this together and putting it on on Kickstarter which has the most strict guidelines out there are they they don't accept money from how many different countries I mean so many different countries are restricted from donating to Kickstarter so there's there's the approval process they have to I mean there's so many different steps involved in it's28/52
it's the most transparent and honest way to do it and that fits right along with our our motto news but media with integrity I think integrity is that the proper word to use so I hope people can appreciate that and understand what what all goes into that and in fact I've had the wonderful opportunity here recently to I have some conversations with some of our supporters29/52
of news but of boiling frog post and %HESITATION it it was a very good experience one that %HESITATION we wanted to share with our our viewers we we want we want to give our viewers up platform %HESITATION of voice because they are just as much a part of this organization is as you or I Sibel up this is %HESITATION without are ours supporters and we wouldn't30/52
be here doing this right now so that's absolutely true I'm so glad you brought this up because anyway it's hard especially since all of us up with this promotion and marketing is that this is not our forte even engage in investigative journalism productions that we are not salespeople etcetera and he's kind of because we are not that way it's hard to go out there if you31/52
feel like New York engage in the self promotion thing so you're absolutely right I mean we we should instead have some of our long term supporters and short term supporters people who have been donated to our Kickstarter's pledging people weapons subscribing to to our website even though our content is open source to hear from them and I'm not don't tell other people why why news but32/52
why they have been visiting this site for the last few years why they're coming to our YouTube channel I'm watching our videos and most importantly why idea reaching out of their pockets they I'm gonna do my share whether it's ten dollars weather's thousand dollars I'm gonna do my share and what better way to here and actually put this out then reach out to those people and33/52
say you know what you tell other people I think that's a great idea and I'm let's let's do that well less dark it's like as of now let's start bringing in some of our some of our of supporters donors subscribers and let them tell us and tell our viewers yeah own ward you know from the heart sincerely why news but and and eat any of you34/52
out there who wants to participate in this first of all you have to know that you have been visiting our site you have been supporting us doesn't matter the amount doesn't matter what you want to take part in this all please email us because then there's that direct message to Twitter of contact us through our website and say look I have been reading I have been35/52
viewing I've been listening to you guys for this many years on this many months and I have something to say I want to tell people why am I want to tell them why I'm doing that's a fantastic idea so yeah less less just stop right here and just let other people viewers people who made news by possible talk about it and tell us and tell everyone36/52
why well I I I fully support news but and then the probably the biggest reason is because I feel that it's fully transparent and this is one of the goals that Sibel ass in mind and that ice I see it this way and chorus the alternative than the mainstream media and it seems to be going or is already in the exact opposite direction it certainly is37/52
far from being transparent and the I like the fact that news but is a hundred percent people funded that's that is people who are are not trying to direct the content I'm and and that the noose but editors wish to provide that they will direct the the content and that if we if we feel that we're getting our our money's worth and will continue to support38/52
the project and I just appreciate that you guys are there are two %HESITATION shine the light in the darkness in kind of like the past and %HESITATION say it's you know look beyond the story look beyond the high and actually digging and find those nuggets of truth that are out there because the rest is just distraction and that's what %HESITATION creates all the fears because people39/52
don't understand the problem they're gonna fear it but you guys actually shine the light on the truth and allow that to voice of reason which allows people to logically come to their own conclusion that he wait a minute this where everything I've been told is a lie I need to research this more and get to there the bottom here and that's what you guys do in40/52
a hurry and %HESITATION I just really love that about your service and you got that daily %HESITATION news but %HESITATION topics stories that you put out that really re focus people's attention on what's really going on behind the scenes because everybody else is so distracted with what's going on out there and there's only %HESITATION so many hours in a day that they can absorb things but41/52
you a I really love that service that you just but the stories out there and people can read I'm at their own leisure and then I'll come to their own conclusions we cannot rely on the mainstream media anymore it's just down there untrustworthy aren't there they have handlers their owners and there people at the top of the chain have their own hidden agendas if you do42/52
some research it's very easy to see what those hidden agendas are and I don't believe news but has a hidden agenda I think there were quite a few are in their in their beliefs and this is why I keep gravitating towards this this team and it's been a lot of thunder our get the word out for news but because I think it's really important that people43/52
find out about it %HESITATION because you guys are a hundred percent people sponsored so without the people support you can't really function to the caliber that were used to with you cell that's one of the reasons I love supporting you guys because the more people that know about it the more people go yeah this is real %HESITATION this isn't real news it's not slough fits into44/52
has nothing to do with the Kardashians there you know who who's voting on the voice or any of that so there's really no peace strap chins about what the real issues are and it's some meaningful dialogue Everytime we interact with newsman I again not I wish you all the best that I hope this is successful because it really deserves to be it really does I don't45/52
think there's anything quite like this going on in the alternative %HESITATION content wise and that with the transparency in the integrity that tech news but this is bringing to the table %HESITATION he's covered Turkey and Syria and you read the Russian headlines and you bring you bring things to the forefront the people don't even hear about whether they're watching the BBC or NBC or whatever they're46/52
never going to hear the real truth about Aleppo they're never going to really hear the truth about the Turkish coup especially if they're watching CNBC and NBC because they're actually you caught them working for the CIA and no one the only ones that exposed it was are you inside now and you actually went out to New York and were proactive to ask them the question but47/52
you know they wanna hide from the truth that's okay right you actually expose the truths refreshing I would say that done in contrast to the mainstream media news bias is offering a lot of high quality content rich richer are content in depth material and that that the mainstream media just the is not delivering to us today there's a very obvious bias to the new stories that48/52
we're getting from mainstream media and that's that's the main reason that that I really enjoy them coming back to news but all the time well anybody who is a truth lover someone that is a freedom lover should really be well informed and the only way you can be well informed as to get viable information that you can make logical conclusions from and a I find news49/52
but to be absolutely transparent that way whatever stories you reporting on there's no %HESITATION hidden agenda there's nothing other than these the facts draw your own conclusion and that's what I love about news but and I think everybody should not think of it is investing in news but but investing in themselves and investing and being informed and the moral you know knowledge is power but it50/52
you have to use that power and you can't you can't be well informed unless you have the knowledge and there's so many distractions out there but news but it doesn't create any distractions it actually goes to the heart of every single story and you get there and within a short amount of time you can become well informed and be more well informed and ninety five percent51/52
of the citizens than the US in the world I just like the states the bell is doing a wonderful job with this project and there I I just don't I I do so fully support where everything that she's doing I think she's a wonderful person very bright as well I just hope this I hope it works out relating stay tuned for more updates Sibel thank you52/52
very much be sure to follow news but on Twitter subscribe to our YouTube channel and please share and support our Kickstarter campaign how we need your support now more than ever as Sibel just laid out the two different models that are in existence these scripture in verses the open source it's up to you at this point to decide
