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Sirius Disclosure
Published: 2013-12-03
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thLGknsJ2Qg
my name is Robert M. would and I go by doctor Bob these days I have a degree in aeronautical engineering from the university of Colorado and I subsequently got a PhD in physics from Cornell and I went right into McDonnell Douglas as say young engineer and stayed with Madonna letters for forty three years the graduating basically steps and wound up in charge of various aspects of
our research and development programs including the last one during my career Delbonis sixty there was quite a bit of publicly exposed information about various Sabah UFO events one day when I was just doing my normal job supporting my boss he said you know general Schriever is retiring and a general Schriever was the guy who invented the ICBM and the airforce wanted to have a sort of
a testimonial event symposium for him and each of the contractors including us got an assignment to predict what the future would hold the next ten years and so are tough assignment was to talk about going to space and back and so I knew my boss was really oriented towards nuclear propulsion invited telling otherwise he was gonna talk about nuclear propulsion everybody was tired of hearing about
nuclear propulsion so I said well Gee ray why don't you tell them about how the UFOs allegedly do it and he said that's a great idea why don't you work that out so I read my first book which was Donna mills Menzel's book and after I read that book I told my wife that this guy's a legibly a scientist but he's not talking logically he's ignoring
the data and so I read another book and pretty soon I'd read all fifty books and at that time I became interested in subscribing to various journals and met Jim Donald now there were two interesting aspects that fell out of this meeting with Jim Donald one of them was that he can he convinced me that I had a story that I could tell to my management
since since I concluded that the U. up was a real one one day when I was driving to work until bile is no other solution there clearly really clearly extraterrestrial and they work somehow and I think we ought to figure out how they work because I would want to be the last aerospace company to discover gravity control I think we ought to be the first so
I took a briefing to I. management and my management was very sympathetic at that particular time for for some new creative ideas they didn't have much of a basic research program and I offered a very modest project to look into this problem so we did some things like see whether we could train changes speed of light by a large axe magnetic field and we hired Stan
Friedman actually to use the UFO literature as a basis for clues as to what technology might be involved so that was that was this project was under way and Jim McDonald became aware of the fact that there was a symposium about to happen in Boston that %HESITATION full of Marcin and Carl Sagan were organizing on UFOs so he apparently planted the seed in Sagan's ears so
you know as a group of McDonnell Douglas who study in UFOs you might wanna give a call us if they want to participate well I just finished reading Carl Sagan's wonderful book intelligent life in the universe written about nineteen sixty six it had a tremendous respect for the ideas that I had seen there which included the serious consideration for extraterrestrial life and so Carl called one
day and introduced himself and I was honored of course because you know he was clearly more outranking that I was in a in terms of his profession at that time and but when he said I understand you might be doing some work and what would you want talk about if we were asked to give a paper and I say well Carl one thing I would one
do is what everybody else by going to never try to prove that they're real I said it's very clear to anybody who studies the tall that there extraterrestrial in the morn most important things for your other works I would get a paper discussing the different avenues that one could explore in order to figure out how they work and it was a long silence on the phone
said he never invited to give the paper so at that that I did however attend the conference anyway and %HESITATION because I heard everybody else who who was there I realize that at that time I began to ask myself is there some plan to control this process it was just sort of a sub conscious thought that I had in my mind and I didn't really do
much with more with it that so that's two stories that relate to my career now there was there is a third story relating to my career which is much more subtle it had to do with classified work they're classified program that I was working on was %HESITATION at that code word level and it actually had a very simply to do with a since I was working
on are of ballistic missile defense program it's very common for %HESITATION intelligence agencies like the CIA to ask contractors who have expertise in one area to study the enemy's expertise in that same area and so this program was to study the Soviet ballistic missiles program and it and that fact I think it's actually unclassified now the name the program might be classified in association with but
so as I became familiar with the the the program was pretty interesting as you may know when you get cleared for one of these classified programs you wear your special badge in you know you can talk to anybody who's in the room with a lot of candor and feels like there's one psychological group and %HESITATION that there's a lot of camaraderie that builds up but what
if any have access to special libraries so one of the things that we could do was to go up to the library the airforce ran and sort of paw through top secret material so since I was interested in UFOs I had some usual business to take care of and I'd also kinda look in their library to see what they had on that subject and for for
about a year I was getting quite a few who hits on the subject about various reports and then all of a sudden the whole subject material vanished this entire classification America classification for the subject is just vanished and the librarian in our group that I was working with state you know he'd been in this business for twenty years he was he going about forty years old
he'd been in that vault for twenty years and knew exactly how things normally we're done and he said this is remarkable user never seen that before they just don't have a whole subject managed out from under so I think there is something there you you had up he said done you know you had to go see the conduct committee and tell what you do that you
got some some good stuff and and you got a good plan and so I I did I realize the letter saying that are my company have been looking into the subject to your votes and did they want to hear what we were doing and so I got a courteous invitation back from I'm kind and we pay a little briefing that explained how to explain how you
could take it toroidal loop %HESITATION superconducting material and establish a strong magnetic field in one direction and a and then charge at the same time so could float in the electrostatic field of the earth and the bottom line that I had was that we were just about a factor of ten away from having superconducting %HESITATION current capacity %HESITATION enough to do this no course our teams
out well deal effective ten we're gonna be there couple years condoms lack of interest in in the subject and in quite in contrast to his group his peak caught on this group together who sat around and listened to everything and %HESITATION and then when he said well therefore you can't do it they'll looked at him in amazement and said well but it's only a factor of
ten and so I became friendly with several of them right Greg and the others and %HESITATION I concluded that this was not an object of study so I wrote a letter to Khandan I suggesting that it might be helpful if he would establish his group in two parts and have won the believers in one display reason that both some good work with their ankles and so
I am taking the liberty of sending this a copy this letter to every member of your group whose addresses hydrous receive from them privately and he was so furious at that he called up James S. McDonnell who was at that time the chairman of the newly merged Douglas and McDonnell aircraft companies I tried to get me fired really I found this out three years later from
my boss %HESITATION who that apparently would number one reported that McDowell said I don't like other people meddling in my business so that was nice to hear from the CEO Eddie and yes there you know there's a question what would he do enhances your letter and he wrote a letter that had been approved through my management because at them that's right it into and so my
management back me up the back me up then and I did never learned of this took about three years later that my career was you know practically %HESITATION gone so the head of Air Force comic committee trying to get you fired contest condom person yeah right personally right at you right Everytime there was one other thing that came about as a result of my association with
him Donald and and that was %HESITATION we've become quite quite friendly I like the guy he was really an energetic his assistant and wouldn't let any grass grow under his feet when he when he got a case you would biggest teeth into it and present that overwhelmingly convincing story to professional societies and he would talk to the American institute of aeronautics and astronautics in American physical
society and I have to be members of both so whatever he was in town I would pick him up that's going to make sure that he felt welcome and so once when I was traveling through Tucson where he lived I stopped ahead of like a two hour layover had to catch an airplane he came out to the airport to have a beer with and so so
I don't what what's what's new jam and he said well this is I think I got is that what we think he got he said I think and he has what is so I can't tell you I got to be sure and it was X. weeks after that that he's pledged to and %HESITATION you know a couple months after that he died knowing what I think
I now suspect about the skills of our counterintelligence people I think we had the capacity to convince him to do it itself and I think that's what happened well one of the things that one does in beginning to study the subject you oppose is to answer the obvious questions of where they come from is it all real if that's too under the work what's the evidence
and so one of the things that I did kind of early on was to I take the data that we got from reading the literature that Stan Friedman was kind of collecting and and take specific cases to see what clues were there for example the case of Paul hill citing where there were two you oppose circling around each other at a known just parking and under
no cloud cover told you that that was a hundred and thirty five Jeez of acceleration so they had you know really good number and then likewise you can compute the Jeez from the time to disappear over the horizon so I developed a kind of technical beef on on what we knew the limits might be and and also things relating to the physical evidence that is %HESITATION
yeah indentations on a railroad tie that were so deep and so so bigger diameter top do you know what the pressure was gonna be per square centimeter and you can make an estimate of what that meant with respect to the the weight of the of the craft so these kinds of things I just kind of automatically did as I was don't developing my thought processes and
I concluded that there was just no question but what they were they were genuine real objects and that they worked in some specific way and that the only question was to figure out how that is that there were not there was nothing like magic there are no secrets if you're smart you just figure out what the equations are and we weren't there yet we we we
started this project on company money one up we spent five hundred thousand dollars nineteenths the eight to seventy dollars %HESITATION of the company's money here we were studying a technology that might be a thousand years ahead of ours and we might not have the materials of that for this I think through anything so the right thing to do is to to cancel it what we were
there were other things as I became more familiar with the literature that I gradually developed opinion on no one was the opinion that the psychic communication was always a clue and was usually present this I remember the one case that particular impressed me of some guy in Mexico City came right he was hiking he came around a corner and there was this huge alien with that
the device around his belt and so the guy touch the belt turned a knob and all of a sudden he was hearing with the alien was think direct just like that and yeah well you know that's what we need is a device like that all you have to do is figure out how it works and it should be straightforward once we study that that's why I
went when when I was in the vault I was working with the guy who turned out you may have heard of her them %HESITATION whose name is Jack how %HESITATION who had a good deal of interest in studying anomalous things that had to do with my so he had been looking at the subject of remote viewing him vetted the PK party with Colonel John Alexander and
whom you may know %HESITATION people they know and that Jack got me interested in %HESITATION doing becoming familiar with with remote viewing assignment help put off when he was working that's our I and they have told me about their program there and one thing led to another that we did a little %HESITATION coordinate remote viewing program of our own and it turned out that Mr macdonell
became aware of this fact that we were doing this in in the fall at least we're thinking about doing it and he called me into his office one day when I was back in Saint Louis on a business trip and I thought you know I'm about to to get really chastised but you talk to me for two hours and said he was excited to find out
there was somebody was interested in the subject because you know he he named his airplanes the phantom of the voodoo because he believed that %HESITATION headband she I think there were maybe four names and so he gave us twenty thousand dollars to study this coordinate remain remote viewing covertly in the vault the net result was that I had become a familiar you with yet another corner
of anomalies namely that the psychic can and so I just actually I started doing inadvertently just add together what I knew about your foes and I knew about psychic stuff and figure they were all interconnected and if you get one set of equations you can get the other and and help put off and I were in agreement with that we've established a %HESITATION pretty good relationship
because I was doing some innovative things of hell hadn't thought of that I came to the conclusion early on that the evidence for extraterrestrial visitation was just overwhelming amid almost so large that here you have discussed as they became more familiar with the UFO program projects especially in my conversations with Jim McDonald I originally kind of